Originally posted by PApro
this sounds good in theory but what your telling me is that somewhere there is a little round yellow guy that eats dots and gets chased by ghosts until he eats even bigger dots than he eats the ghosts? or a gorilla kidnaped a princess and throws barrels at the plumber thats tryin to save her? or even thats somewhere out there monkeys exist that fly and poop cookie dough ice cream?
i understaind what ur getting at and i agree to an extent.. but rather than saying every possibility exists you should say anything could exist.

That is what infinite means.

If our universe is infinite, which most people think it is, and growing, which most people think it is, and will never stop, which most people think it wont, and there are infinite universes, which science recently said there could be, then that is what infinite means Somewhere in one of those universes, Pac-Man is real.

Wrapping your mind around infinity is impossible. But that is what it means.

Infinite monkeys + infinite typewriters + infinite ribbons + infinite paper = infinite Shakespeare.

Infinity is unbelievably huge.

Originally posted by Primordial
I should be dead already.


I have purposely waited...it's been a few minutes.


I am still here.


Theory failed. Sorry.

I trust you are all the limitations you place upon yourself.
Namaste,

Originally posted by awakened sleeper
When I was in the moment between moments a being that looked rather similar to OZ in the wizard of oz told me "You see what you think you see."

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Richard? Richard Bach?

I suggest that finding Yourself does not provide peace until all forms of You reconcile. Buddha and Jesus of Nazareth Knew this. Revelations in the Bilbe gives us the guide to facing Ourself. Jung said, "People will do anything, no matter how absurd, to aviod facing their soul." In western terms the Anti-Christ is nothing more than an aspect of Us. Satan is You - Me - God. We cannot be apart as difficult that is to digest.

Awesome post OP. I day dream a lot, and I'm always thinking of outlandish theories and thoughts. Something came to me a few years ago; I think even some philosophers have said this throughout the years; that "imagination" is more important than "logic." If you think about it, it's true. Imagination is one of the greatest gifts in the universe. Without imagination, we don't have all of the inventions that we have today; they were all sparked by imagination.

And if you believe in a higher power, we don't exist without imagination. EVERYTHING we build is first sparked by a thought - the same with our creator(s) perhaps? Anyway, I should stop there, I could go on and on.

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Originally posted by treemanx
Better get my hip waiters on for this thread, the BS is knee deep in here!

And so It IS for you. Enjoy your reality.
Namaste,

Everytime I've discussed this kind of thinking to my friends, they come up with things like Smurfs and Transformers existing somewhere out there.

When I reflect upon myself such a notion, I can't help but think about the face huggers from the Alien movies.

* shivers *

The birth of anything starts with someones initial thought.

2nd line.

even in a multiverse there are still things you can imagine that are not possible. . . . just because there may be huge numbers of universes that doesn't mean that any of them would allow for you to say fly through a star unimpeded.

Thats the problem i think with most peoples interpratation of many worlds theory. Things have probabilities of happening, but that doesn't mean it will happen.

Even in a nearly infinite multiverse there are events that could never occur because there is no physical laws that would allow them. There is a huge difference in possible and has/will happen.

Not to sound all knowing or anything but only the possible is possible some things just don't fall into the possible catagory.

Heres an example. . . in an infinite universe with infinite possibilities in which everything you can imagine has occured then in at least one of the infinite many there would be a civilization that figured out how to destroy the entire multiverse then executed the idea. . . . . we're still here

Even in the multiverse only the possible is possible some things remain impossible

Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla
...That is what infinite means.

If our universe is infinite, which most people think it is, and growing, which most people think it is, and will never stop, which most people think it wont, and there are infinite universes, which science recently said there could be, then that is what infinite means Somewhere in one of those universes, Pac-Man is real.

Wrapping your mind around infinity is impossible. But that is what it means.

Infinite monkeys + infinite typewriters + infinite ribbons + infinite paper = infinite Shakespeare.

Infinity is unbelievably huge.

You're right -- And I, too, cited the "Infinite Monkey Theorem".

I think many people posting here against the OP's assertion are getting too caught up on the OP's words when he said "if you imagine it, it will exist" -- as if our imagination is creating the reality.

That is not what is being proposed here. What is being proposed is that give an infinite number of universes, infinite possible outcomes have happened for an infinite number of given situations...

So there is a universe where the Roman Empire never fell, and humans never entered the dark ages and are thus much more far advanced than we are...or a universe where supines (pigs) instead of primates evolved into the dominant species on Earth...or a universe where Earth never formed at all, so we don't exist...or, as suggested by BaronVonGodzilla and I, a universe where a monkey HAS IN FACT written a Shakespeare play by randomly hitting a keyboard.

We don't need to be around to imagine these things for them to exist. If there are an infinite number of universes, then these things exist whether we imagine them or not.

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Originally posted by treemanx
Better get my hip waiters on for this thread, the BS is knee deep in here!

hey one of my favorite all time movies, a true classic... timless

The points are all moot anyways, since I created the universe.
That's right. Universe. Not Multiverse. Because the many-faceted qualities of my universe are all part of it!

Here's another crazy idea: the infinite number of universes that are just slight variations on this one (or even major variations on it) are informing the way this one plays out, like back-up or data-bank universes, or even like accompaniments or even overtones or partial harmonics of this universe.

Or maybe we are all popping in and out of various alternate universes as directed by consciousness, without even realizing it. Maybe I have already died in another version of this universe, but for the sake of my own personal explorations, I continued living here in this version of reality. But in other universes my friends and family are experiencing what is like for me to have died in an accident, etc.

Any other thoughts along similar lines?

Originally posted by strNick
Great! It means that I, you, he/she, we created everything by thinking about it. The whole Multiverse (God included)!

That makes perfect sense in a world of imperfections.

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, but you know it fell, and can imagine it making a sound, did it make a sound in a parallel universe?

I guess the answer the OP would provide is that it both made a sound and did not make a sound. That would be awesome, anyway

Originally posted by genma
Right now think of your wildest idea or most outlandish fantasy. Have that mental picture? Good. Now guess what. That concept exists somewhere, somehow in our limitless extra-dimensional multiverse. You're not crazy. Think of any video game that you've played or movie watched. Those ideas and concepts exist somewhere in tangible form. Maybe not on our planet, in our galaxy or even in our universe but somewhere they do. There's no such thing as fantasy. Reality is infinite. I'm no sage or scholar but I know deep down what I say is true. I can't prove any of this to all of you but I don't think I have to. You already knew this as well. Just search your mind, body, and soul. The answers we've been seeking have always been with us.

Wrong, if that was possible everyone would know it, and the universe would have been destroyed a long time ago, because one of the 70 billion people that have lived and died, one of them would have imagined the end of the world or the end of time or something... The fact that we are here tells you that, "There are indeed limits" to reality... We are an interesting occurance that much is obvious, but we are no more special than the rocks floating through space. We are purely facinating to ourselves, and what we do matters not to any other part of the Universe.

Think of earth as a giant petri dish, and we are the experiment.