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Of Flying Dragons and Metallic Discs


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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 06:15 AM by spacevisitor


Hello Skyfloating.

I just printed out all the excellent information you provided here, so I can read them like a book. I find reading on a compscreen not pleasant, so therefore, when I have something I really want to read carefully, I always print it out and then jump on my couch relax myself and enjoy the [ride ] read.
Of course I did take a fast look at it, and therefore want you give on the forehand my compliments for all your excellent work and research you have done here.

Originally posted by SkyfloatingThe theory is still rejected by large parts of global society because it puts most of our belief-systems to question.


And you are right, but I am still convinced that it is just a matter of time when that theory can't be rejected anymore.
Therefore, collecting and sharing information like you do here is in my opinion very important, and the real value and significance of it all will eventually come into Big play when the ongoing Disclosure of an already Alien presence here has come to a point that it can’t be denied anymore by anyone here on this Earth.

So to this point, the only things I could add to these threads are the above and the well deserved flags and stars.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:31 PM by Matyas


Hey all, I am seeing remarkable parallels with this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

When you dig into it there is this:

Alfvén writes that:
".. elements with the lowest ionization potential are brought closest to the axis, and form concentric hollow cylinders whose radii increase with ionization potential [..] The drift of ionized matter from the surroundings into the rope means that the rope acts as an ion pump, which evacuates the surroundings . Regions with extremely low densities can be produced in this way ."

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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:13 PM by diakrite


Hmm..I suddenly thought of a sort of in-between vision on dragons/sky serpents:Yes, there were ancient flying craft, but with after-burning jet-engines.

Result? Ahaa! Fire breathing exhaust/afterburner "snakedragon"..makes...."snakey" Contrails!! Has anyone noticed how the nice fat ones shape-change quite nicely on a day with high winds in the upper layers? It even makes the dragons "roar" (ever stood in the vicinity of a full afterburn take off? even with hearing protection it is hammering down on ya in no uncertain way). Contrails length & dissipation depends on wind, moisture, temperature etc. On certain days a jet-liner on 30.000ft. passing overhead with a fast dissipating contrail may look like a serpent with very little imagination needed.(I live under the flightpath of several airlines)

Well, just my speculative 0,02$ (and possibly already pointed out in some thread )



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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 04:48 AM by Skyfloating


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The reason I post this rather than put it into a book is because its all the cross-referencing and collaborative research (see the two other posts on this page) that gives all of this more substance. Thousands of minds know more than one...

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 09:40 AM by spacevisitor


I thought, perhaps there are some vids to find on the net that fits into this subject, so during some searching I stumbled on this two part video.

The Alternative History of the Dragon.

Text alternated by interesting images accompanied by music.

For thousands of years, people spanning every continent of the world described the existence of a God-like, dragon being. What does this prolific symbolism really mean?


Part one.


YouTube Link


part two


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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:17 AM by Skyfloating


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Interesting Vids

My guess is that the "Dragons" are the ones who are in some kind of Cosmic war/battle with "the Eagles". In any case, someday we will know what the Dragon is.



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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 03:35 AM by Skyfloating


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Maybe so. The Chinese Dragons you see at modern festivals also show Dragons who "leave a trail behind them" when they fly.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 10:10 AM by spacevisitor


Originally posted by Skyfloating
Part 3 of a 3 Part Series. Read Parts 1 and 2 before reading this.
I hope you have enjoyed this three part series on Ancient Extraterrestrials from a China-centric perspective.

I enjoyed writing it and publishing it for free in the Internet. My motive in doing so is the hope that it will inspire others to invest research time into similar mysteries...


Skyfloating, I just want let you know that I finished reading the three part series, and must say that as you enjoyed writing it all I absolutely enjoyed reading them all.

What a marvelous piece of information that is, I sorely realize how much work you must have done to put it all together.
Then your own thoughts about the meaning of those pieces of text are in my opinion really well thought out and very solid. There is little room for something else so to speak.

As you said here.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Ancient accounts around the world speak – almost without exception – of “Sky People” and “Sky Gods” descending to planet earth, flying through the skies, coming from and returning to the stars.
It is from such worldwide concordance that the “Ancient Astronaut Theory” arose.
The theory is still rejected by large parts of global society because it puts most of our belief-systems to question.


And here.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
The list of Serpents from every culture and country goes into the thousands, yet conventional “wisdom” maintains that they are unrelated and fictitious. Carl Sagan for example, one of the most popular advocates of natural sciences in the 20th Century had this to say in his book “Dragons of Eden” (1977):
“The Myth of Dragons arose from the innate fear of reptiles that we share with other mammals”


This sentence displays a certain amount of arrogance in that it wipes thousands and thousands of pages of ancient tradition away as meaningless.

People like Carl Sagan and those that belong to as you call it to the large parts of global society, the global scientific community if I am correct, are mostly if not all intelligent people, therefore I don’t understand in any way such statements as they’re so far unbending point of view about it.

It looks very strong like some sort of Forbidden Mythology, just as we already have Forbidden Archeology, Forbidden Egyptology and don't forget Forbidden Ufology as well.
There must be some major reason for that all.

Here is for instance Forbidden archeology at work.


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Here is for instance Forbidden Ufology at work.

Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative
"I became part of a group that would investigate, gather the information, and in the beginning it was still under the Blue Book, Snowbird and different covert programs.

I would go interview people who claimed they had seen something and try to convince them they hadn’t seen something or that they were hallucinating.

Well, if that didn’t work, another team would come in and give all the threats. And threaten them and their family and so on and so forth.
And they would be in charge of discrediting them, making them look foolish and so on and so forth.

Now if that didn’t work, then there was another team that put an end to that problem, one way or another."


From the DISCLOSURE PROJECT BRIEFING DOCUMENT of Dr. Steven Greer.

So obvious, in Ufology when people came out with sensitive information or a dissent opinion about it they where and are still today victim of ridicule, victim of losing their jobs and even worse.

I wonder, could it be that that also counts for Mythology?

Just some thoughts.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
But why do ancient cultures universally use reptilian creatures to describe what they saw? Is it because the flying craft were built to look reptilian? Is it because the pilots were of a reptilian race?


I think that that is the only logical explanation for it all and what is back upped by provided information due which I believe are very credible people.

Well Skyfloating, I must stop now because this reply costed me already some hours to write now, and I hope I doesn’t made to many writing errors and such.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 12:52 PM by Skyfloating


Originally posted by spacevisitor
People like Carl Sagan and those that belong to as you call it to the large parts of global society, the global scientific community if I am correct, are mostly if not all intelligent people, therefore I don’t understand in any way such statements as they’re so far unbending point of view about it.



I have some respect towards Sagan and people like him, but with stuff like this its really strange.

Ive concluded that its probably not a deliberate conspiracy but merely cognition-filters due to preconceptions. The inability to see things differently once you have learned to see them one way.


Here is for instance Forbidden Ufology at work.



Maybe there is a cover-up at work additionally. But with people like Sagan and MILLIONS of other people Im sure its not a cover-up but merely a sort of cognitive/perceptual issue.


Well Skyfloating, I must stop now because this reply costed me already some hours to write now, and I hope I doesn’t made to many writing errors and such.



Your English is getting better



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 03:34 AM by Matyas


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You are both correct. Its two sides of the same coin. For you it is this key

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And for you, it is this key



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 05:18 AM by spacevisitor


Originally posted by Skyfloating
Maybe there is a cover-up at work additionally. But with people like Sagan and MILLIONS of other people Im sure its not a cover-up but merely a sort of cognitive/perceptual issue.


Look for instance Carl Sagan’s opinion about UFO’s.

He cautioned against jumping to conclusions about suppressed UFO data and stressed that there was no strong evidence that aliens were visiting the Earth either in the past or present.


en.wikipedia.org...

Please don’t underestimate the power of the cover-up and far-reaching consequences it had so far on Ufology?
Look for instance what Richard M. Dolan said about it.

Nearly all scientists are employed by some large organization, such as a governmental department, a university, or a multinational company.

Only rarely are they free to express their science as a personal view.

They may think that they are free, but in reality they are, nearly all of them, employees; they have traded freedom of thought for good working conditions, a steady income, tenure, and a pension.


keyholepublishing.com...

Look for instance what Stanton T. Friedman said about it, and I can go on and on.

After 50 years of study and investigation I have concluded that:
Some UFOs are extraterrestrial spacecraft.
The subject of flying saucers represents a “Cosmic Watergate” (government cover-up of the best data obtained by intelligence agencies).
Visits to planet Earth and this cover-up represent the biggest story of the millennium.


www.ufomystic.com...

UFOs - A Challenge to Mainstream Science by Patricia B. Corbett.
Summary: An excellent, award-winning overview of the UFO phenomenon, the evidence, and mainstream science. Examines why scientists do not look at the physical evidence; describes what the existing evidence is; and guides the reader to many books, reports and databases that contain evidence of UFO reality. In addition, lists many of the world leaders, scientists, astronauts, military personnel and other credible people who have witnessed UFOs themselves, adding convincing personal testimony to the available data.

Conclusion

Sturrock and others have observed that scientists are interested in UFOs but unwilling to become involved publicly. Scientists say "show me the evidence" but do not study the reams of evidence available.

Carl Sagan has said that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Mainstream scientists often quote Sagan to defend their reluctance to look into the question of UFOs.

[color=Yellow]However, today's scientists are like the scientists of Galileo's day who refused to look into the telescope to see the moons of Jupiter with their own eyes[/color].


www.ufoevidence.org...

I am convinced that that is still the real situation today as it was since some decades now.
Therefore, I am personally convinced that it has definitely some ground in common with those other fields too.





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