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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:31 PM by Matyas
Hey all, I am seeing remarkable parallels with this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

When you dig into it there is this:

Alfvén writes that:
".. elements with the lowest ionization potential are brought closest to the axis, and form concentric hollow cylinders whose radii increase with ionization potential [..] The drift of ionized matter from the surroundings into the rope means that the rope acts as an ion pump, which evacuates the surroundings . Regions with extremely low densities can be produced in this way ."

source


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 04:48 AM by Skyfloating
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The reason I post this rather than put it into a book is because its all the cross-referencing and collaborative research (see the two other posts on this page) that gives all of this more substance. Thousands of minds know more than one...

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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 10:17 AM by Skyfloating
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Interesting Vids

My guess is that the "Dragons" are the ones who are in some kind of Cosmic war/battle with "the Eagles". In any case, someday we will know what the Dragon is.


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 03:35 AM by Skyfloating
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Maybe so. The Chinese Dragons you see at modern festivals also show Dragons who "leave a trail behind them" when they fly.


reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 10:10 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Part 3 of a 3 Part Series. Read Parts 1 and 2 before reading this.
I hope you have enjoyed this three part series on Ancient Extraterrestrials from a China-centric perspective.

I enjoyed writing it and publishing it for free in the Internet. My motive in doing so is the hope that it will inspire others to invest research time into similar mysteries...


Skyfloating, I just want let you know that I finished reading the three part series, and must say that as you enjoyed writing it all I absolutely enjoyed reading them all.

What a marvelous piece of information that is, I sorely realize how much work you must have done to put it all together.
Then your own thoughts about the meaning of those pieces of text are in my opinion really well thought out and very solid. There is little room for something else so to speak.

As you said here.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Ancient accounts around the world speak – almost without exception – of “Sky People” and “Sky Gods” descending to planet earth, flying through the skies, coming from and returning to the stars.
It is from such worldwide concordance that the “Ancient Astronaut Theory” arose.
The theory is still rejected by large parts of global society because it puts most of our belief-systems to question.


And here.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
The list of Serpents from every culture and country goes into the thousands, yet conventional “wisdom” maintains that they are unrelated and fictitious. Carl Sagan for example, one of the most popular advocates of natural sciences in the 20th Century had this to say in his book “Dragons of Eden” (1977):
“The Myth of Dragons arose from the innate fear of reptiles that we share with other mammals”


This sentence displays a certain amount of arrogance in that it wipes thousands and thousands of pages of ancient tradition away as meaningless.

People like Carl Sagan and those that belong to as you call it to the large parts of global society, the global scientific community if I am correct, are mostly if not all intelligent people, therefore I don’t understand in any way such statements as they’re so far unbending point of view about it.

It looks very strong like some sort of Forbidden Mythology, just as we already have Forbidden Archeology, Forbidden Egyptology and don't forget Forbidden Ufology as well.
There must be some major reason for that all.

Here is for instance Forbidden archeology at work.





Here is for instance Forbidden Ufology at work.

Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative
"I became part of a group that would investigate, gather the information, and in the beginning it was still under the Blue Book, Snowbird and different covert programs.

I would go interview people who claimed they had seen something and try to convince them they hadn’t seen something or that they were hallucinating.

Well, if that didn’t work, another team would come in and give all the threats. And threaten them and their family and so on and so forth.
And they would be in charge of discrediting them, making them look foolish and so on and so forth.

Now if that didn’t work, then there was another team that put an end to that problem, one way or another."


From the DISCLOSURE PROJECT BRIEFING DOCUMENT of Dr. Steven Greer.

So obvious, in Ufology when people came out with sensitive information or a dissent opinion about it they where and are still today victim of ridicule, victim of losing their jobs and even worse.

I wonder, could it be that that also counts for Mythology?

Just some thoughts.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
But why do ancient cultures universally use reptilian creatures to describe what they saw? Is it because the flying craft were built to look reptilian? Is it because the pilots were of a reptilian race?


I think that that is the only logical explanation for it all and what is back upped by provided information due which I believe are very credible people.

Well Skyfloating, I must stop now because this reply costed me already some hours to write now, and I hope I doesn’t made to many writing errors and such.



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 03:34 AM by Matyas
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You are both correct. Its two sides of the same coin. For you it is this key

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And for you, it is this key


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 05:18 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Maybe there is a cover-up at work additionally. But with people like Sagan and MILLIONS of other people Im sure its not a cover-up but merely a sort of cognitive/perceptual issue.


Look for instance Carl Sagan’s opinion about UFO’s.

He cautioned against jumping to conclusions about suppressed UFO data and stressed that there was no strong evidence that aliens were visiting the Earth either in the past or present.


en.wikipedia.org...

Please don’t underestimate the power of the cover-up and far-reaching consequences it had so far on Ufology?
Look for instance what Richard M. Dolan said about it.

Nearly all scientists are employed by some large organization, such as a governmental department, a university, or a multinational company.

Only rarely are they free to express their science as a personal view.

They may think that they are free, but in reality they are, nearly all of them, employees; they have traded freedom of thought for good working conditions, a steady income, tenure, and a pension.


keyholepublishing.com...

Look for instance what Stanton T. Friedman said about it, and I can go on and on.

After 50 years of study and investigation I have concluded that:
Some UFOs are extraterrestrial spacecraft.
The subject of flying saucers represents a “Cosmic Watergate” (government cover-up of the best data obtained by intelligence agencies).
Visits to planet Earth and this cover-up represent the biggest story of the millennium.


www.ufomystic.com...

UFOs - A Challenge to Mainstream Science by Patricia B. Corbett.
Summary: An excellent, award-winning overview of the UFO phenomenon, the evidence, and mainstream science. Examines why scientists do not look at the physical evidence; describes what the existing evidence is; and guides the reader to many books, reports and databases that contain evidence of UFO reality. In addition, lists many of the world leaders, scientists, astronauts, military personnel and other credible people who have witnessed UFOs themselves, adding convincing personal testimony to the available data.

Conclusion

Sturrock and others have observed that scientists are interested in UFOs but unwilling to become involved publicly. Scientists say "show me the evidence" but do not study the reams of evidence available.

Carl Sagan has said that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Mainstream scientists often quote Sagan to defend their reluctance to look into the question of UFOs.

[color=Yellow]However, today's scientists are like the scientists of Galileo's day who refused to look into the telescope to see the moons of Jupiter with their own eyes[/color].


www.ufoevidence.org...

I am convinced that that is still the real situation today as it was since some decades now.
Therefore, I am personally convinced that it has definitely some ground in common with those other fields too.





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reply posted on 16-12-2009 @ 02:31 PM by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Matyas
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For you it is this key



Im no stranger to that. One of my recent threads links Alien-Abduction to the Astral.


reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 12:45 AM by Matyas
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I too am in agreement with you and spacevisitor. It is a few key players kept safe for contingency purposes. That way if they need an overnight paradigm shift the "crazy" can be taken out of UFO. Otherwise there is no risk in spilling the beans as all others who talk are whacked.

The "old-timers" are fewer and further in between posts. They "Don't come around, don't come around, don't come around no more"...no wonder, after seeing the sham for what it is.

You know spacevisitor, you are one of us, the "old-timers"? I still come around to prod and poke, see what gives. Even found one of those so called "aliens" everyone seems to be talking about these days, but I am afraid I scared him away. We really bug them out. They try so hard to fit in and it scares them to no end when we see through the camo. One in a million chance, and he runs. I should have been playing the lottery. Oh well, I'm a rabbit and we take our chances on our lucky stars diving into the holes.

Bugs Bunny. Pretty funny moniker. Better than that Wonderland flup.

Well, hopefully I havn't killed this thread. Seems I have been doing a lot of that lately, unintentionally of course. Must(y) be the smell of my writing that throws 'em off, well if you can't take the stink get off the pot. Consider your hand shaken (I'm right handed btb).


reply posted on 27-12-2009 @ 05:21 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by Matyas
You know spacevisitor, you are one of us, the "old-timers"?


Thanks for your reply Matyas and seeing me as one of the "old-timers", because I see that as a compliment despite I am a member for just some two and a halve years now.

Originally posted by Matyas
Even found one of those so called "aliens" everyone seems to be talking about these days, but I am afraid I scared him away.


Did you have a good look of that "alien" and can you therefore describe him a bit?

Originally posted by Matyas
We really bug them out. They try so hard to fit in and it scares them to no end when we see through the camo.


No way we are able to bug them out in my opinion and why do you think that they try so hard to fit in, because would it not be more logical that we are the ones who must do their upmost best [which we still aren’t capable of as it clearly seems] in order to fit in with them?

Originally posted by Matyas
One in a million chance, and he runs. I should have been playing the lottery.


Winning the lottery is not always a good thing, because who knows what could have happened when he did not had take a run for it?

Originally posted by Matyas
Well, hopefully I havn't killed this thread. Seems I have been doing a lot of that lately, unintentionally of course. Must(y) be the smell of my writing that throws 'em off, well if you can't take the stink get off the pot.


Well, you obviously havn't killed this thread, on the contrary, you kept it ongoing.

Originally posted by Matyas
Consider your hand shaken (I'm right handed btb).


Consider your right hand shaken by mine as well.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 10:01 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by Matyas
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Did you have a good look of that "alien" and can you therefore describe him a bit?


Well it was on the boards here. There is a certain type, the kind who have friends but make none, and within that a subtype, very intelligent and non confrontational. But this does not an alien to our world make. They weave the camo in layers like an onion, and lay low, confident no one will notice.

Now also I suspect the(ir) method of deployment is unconventional. What we consider unconventional in the department of extraterrestrial transportation is common to them but lost to us for a very long time, so they make due by other measures, the long and hard one so familiar to us, travelling corporally through space.


I must admit that I cannot follow all you said here as good as I want, but that is not up to you but entirely up to me. I am Dutch you know and I wished my English was much better, the one time I can follow it obviously better than the other.

Originally posted by Matyas
This is a very difficult subject, I have many fears.

I make no claims I ask you to accept, merely grant me the freedom to reveal my knowledge to comfortable limits. There is most definitely a greater world out there, much greater than I can possibly imagine.


I fully agree with you that this is a very difficult subject and that there is most definitely a greater world out there.
In my opinion even much greater than we all can possibly imagine.

I really think I know a very small part of that all now [after studying the subject for some 37 years now] but realize at the same time very well that is still one drop of an immeasurable ocean.

And despite of being aware of just that drop, I have certain fears to.
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