reply to post by Skyfloating
Always a pleasure to read your posts man, keep it up! S&F'd!
I'd like to add/dispute some points.
The Pig-dragon and the torch-dragon, even though both pronounced as 'Zhulong', are two different types of mythical Chinese dragons. The
torch-dragon is a deity with human head and serpent body, decribed in 'Shang Hai Jing' ('The Book of Mountains and Seas'), and the pig-dragons are
pig-fetus-like dragon, worshiped by the HongShan culture.
On Huang Di riding on a dragon, I looked at the original text describing the event, it says "黄帝上骑", "上" means 'above' and "骑"
means 'ride' and it does not say "inside". Of course the guy wrote this could be striving for poetry, that is also a possibility.
This clip best describes how would a serpent dragon fly and be ridden on, in our East Asian psyche:
This picture depicts Huang Di's ascension into the sky, with the artist's interpretation of course:
If people are supposed to get inside the "dragons", you'd think there would be at least a few who clearly state that, but all the artworks and text
explicitly describe "riding" as you would ride on a horse.
The pictograph character for "dragon" looks exactly like it's depicting a serpent dragon creature, notice its head, horns, legs and tails. Perhaps
you are not familiar with the subtle style of the strokes so this idea does not register with you, therefore you would prefer to interpret it another
Dragons in the water is also a crucial part of the overall Chinese dragon culture.
The word "壁" does not mean "sky", but rather describes the kind of jade objects that are used to pay tribute to the gods in the sky.
I believe these disks with a hole in it have a greater meaning than implying a tool used for transportation, in this case, disk-shaped spaceships.
I'm not an expert on Chinese culture but I do think the you tried a bit too hard to combine and fit those materials into descriptions of disk-shaped,
metallic spaceships. If anything, serpent dragons being cylinder-shaped spaceships would be a better bet. It still possible you may be right though,
other explanations may also be valid.
Once I read on a Chinese forum where a poster with background in the state-owned science department, said his team had captured a very young serpent
dragon alive. With his credibility coupled with many eyewitness accounts (such as one account of village people during a flood seeing a serpent dragon
emerge from the water and ascend into the sky), I'm inclined to believe serpent dragons are real and organic.
Another very credible poster on the Chinese forums once said the Chinese are not the "Descendants of the Dragon" but rather the "owners", he also
said our ancestors come from the 5th dimention and the Chinese military has the technology to project images of their world. So on the part of
human's alien origins, he sort of confirms your theory which I tend to agree, apart from dragons being disc-shaped mechanical spaceships.
Also an interesting side note, those jade dragons discovered from the ancient archeology sites of HongShan culture have found their way into several
Chinese organizations/projects as symbols.
HongShan jade dragon
Eg: The logo of the Huaxia Bank
Eg: The Logo of CLEP (Chinese Lunar Exploration Program)
The Chinese government knows something we don't about the dragons?
[edit on 22-10-2009 by nighinfinite]