Daily Presidential Tracking Poll (Obama at nearly all time low)

reply to post by badgerprints

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That was good! So good!

People are finally seeing through this man. He is made up of bull, he said what he could to get elected and hasn't done anything he promised. He is sinking the country into a hole so deep we will not be able to recover and that is his plan. The man has put laws in place to protect his birth certificate from being released and is now on a warpath the destroy this country. And the morons that voted for him should be ashamed of themselves and embarassed for believing all the bull! Shame on them and you mr. president!

I for one feel all my criticism of obama was justified.He did just what I thought, nothing (nothing good).I don't know what everyone expected from a 1 year senator(actually about 8 months before he began to run) But what really amazes me is people still champion this paper president.That's what you get when you vote with your guilt instead of your brain.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

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Wow, at least now you're starting to see how Republicans felt during Bush's administration with regard to the economy. "It happened on his watch."

Bush didn't start the economic downfall. Clinton did by loosening the restrictions on economic entities. That started the downfall. But it took years to finally manifest itself and 9/11 certainly didn't help matters. When it finally did, people blamed Bush because "it happened on his watch".

Now Obama is getting the same treatment from the same simple-minded Americans who would rather watch "Dancing with the Stars" or "Survivor" than be troubled to read a piece of legislation being passed or get involved in community affairs. Stuff is happening on his watch and people are blaming him. The only reason there was a delayed reaction is because of the stellar campaign he ran and the constant shilling by the media.

It doesn't make sense does it? Especially when you try to reason with an average American who makes stupid accusations.

reply to post by sos37

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That would be me.

Even Hitler was able to get the Olympics for Germany when he was running that country. People have been comparing obama to a nazi, but I guess that means he isn't even a good one of those.

Could you type something that sounds more elitist? And please don't forget, that many of those same ignorant Americans are the ones that drank the kool-aid and voted for obama.



And many dems seem to only believe the polls when you like what they say. Remember the exit polls in Ohio that said Kerry won that state, you all believed those polls like they were gospel.



Don't count on it. With the dems having the majorities they do, the time for passing obama's socialist agenda is quickly passing. Why? Because the people are really getting pissed and letting even their dem congressmen know about it. To get re-elected they'll drop support for obama like yesterday's news.

Face it, regarding obama, we can just about stick a fork in him since he's almost done. By next November, IMO obama will be a de facto lame duck with 2 years still left on his term.

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reply to post by centurion1211

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Actually, the first stimulus package was passed under Bush.

Obama is only responsible for the second one.

Can anyone explain why they support Bush's stimulus but not Obama's?

IMO the two stimulus packages were a gamble but the only thing that could be done that would possibly relieve the impending worldwide depression. Both administrations agreed on that.

A world-wide depression has indeed been avoided but that doesn't mean that many people are not still suffering. It will still be at least another year before employment will really pick up again -- almost all economists agree on that. Obama himself has acknowledged this.

But the worst has been averted.

Of course, this is another Obama-bashing thread so if today's poll has him down a few points it's a cause for rejoicing.

Some folks are hanging onto any shred of evidence that their hated president is about to fall. But daily polls are not a useful indication unless they're followed over a considerable period of time. And actually, Obama's ratings, according to most polls, have picked up since last summer.

No president who has ever accomplished anything worthwhile has done it without massive opposition by some opponents.

You mean the $170 billion economic stimulus package that Bush passed which sent a check directly to U.S. taxpayers?

Or the $787 billion stimulus package Obama passed that sent a check directly to companies and organizations, whom some of which turned out to be Obama's largest campaign contributors ($87 billion for the teacher's union, $111 billion for 'infrastructure' which benefits the labor union, $6.8 billion earmarked for the Service Employees International Union which managed to raise $33 million for Obama during his campaign - including this nice little scandal in which Obama's administration tried to force California's legislature to undo a SEIU wage cut or else lose that $68 billion)

Or maybe it's the bank industry bailout Obama and Senate Democrats pushed for at a cost of $700 billion - which cut checks to many mega corporations who then turned around and started giving outrageous bonuses to their executives?

Or maybe it was the auto industry bailout that Obama pushed Bush to pass while Bush was still in office - at a cost of $25 billion to save the auto industry which so far we're not sure if it has worked or not. But GM and Chrysler are still giving their execs bonuses.

So let's see - Bush's stimulus put money directly in our pockets which sales reports showed many people went out and blew immediately, thus stimulating the economy.

Obama's three stimulus/rescue packages gave money to unions and companies and organizations. We're not sure what, if anything they have done to benefit the country.

Huh. Guess that answers your question.

"Thus stimulating the economy"?? Hmm, that is confusing. If the Bush stimulus package worked then why did the largest banking institutions around the world continue to collapse, retailers continue to declare bankruptcy and the US economy nose-dive?

"Mission accomplished!!!"



President Obama's Stimulas bill included $237 Billion in Tax breaks for individuals...more in tax cuts then any other President in history, Republican or democrat.

"gave money to unions"...by this you mean the bill included infastructure projects that would employ Blue Collar workers who often belong to Unions?...and employing these folks is bad how? Improving the US infastructure is bad how...Levies breaking? Bridges collapsing?

Actually fact checking your post is a waste of time. What is accurate there? Try supporting your argument with links rather than just claiming BS.

That "nice little scandal" you linked to...read the whole article...research how it evolved and where the issue stands now and then tell me if it is actually a scandal of any kind...LOL

Anyone that wants to know where the last stimulus went...

As of the end of August...Only about 20% had been spent.

As for what the bill had in it....see here...scroll down to the bottom for a breakdown of the final bill that passed and how the money was allocated..
en.wikipedia.org...



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To answer your question, from the election until the inauguration, in many ways obama was a de facto "co-president" with bush. He was consulted on everything and put his stamp of approval on everything that bush did until the end of his term.

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

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I'm not going to go through the whole laundry list of broken promises, pledges and proclamations.

Your's is an excellent point all its own:

If Obama, Geithner, Bernanke and Emmanuel were serious about getting money to local borrowers, they could've done to banks what they did with Student Loans; eliminate the lender "middle men" and make the loans from government funds themselves!

We've got the 50-state stimulus funding framework already in place, they could just broaden the definition of "qualified applicants." Many stimulus programs are loans and "loan facilities," so it's not much of a stretch.

(Note that last Saturday Obama "promised" to re-invigorate SBA government-guaranteed loans directly to small businesses.)

Deny ignorance.

jw

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

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Maybe she read the New York Times Magazine May 15 interview (especially pages 4 thru 6) where he described how medical resources should be rationed, with questions about the value of elder care versus treatment options.

jw

Bush's stimulus had the same effect as Obama's for most People. It did nothing but add more debt.

I remember getting my 2 checks. Payed bills. Yeah I stimulated the freaking economy alright! Many payed on credit card debt thus giving more money to banks.

All it did in the end was give big business/banks a boost and another 300 billion dollars. It doesn't matter if it's Bottom up economics or Top Down Economics...the results will always be the same unless WE ENFORCE ANTI TRUST LAWS and REPEAL NAFTA. There is a reason why we are all broke and there are others with billions of dollars.

Government is supposed to protect us from all threats...domestic or foreign...no matter if they are wearing guns or business suits.

Our country is in such bad shape.