It was apparent back during elections many of his supporters treated it as an audience-decides reality show which I guess in some ways is.
If his rating gets low to the point where it affects his self-esteem I'll step in and fake like I'm a fan. You know, just to maintain niceties.

I think the luster is starting to wear off for Obama.

He had an enormous following during and directly after the elections simply because he wasn't Bush, he wasn't a Republican, and he was promising change. People are starting to realize that he's really more of the same, and very few people are satisfied with the overall workings of our government.

The biggest issue Obama has, in my opinion, is that he's losing his core constituency.

He let down the pacifists, as instead of minimizing or ending our overseas conflicts, he's just shifted them around. It's fairly obvious at this point that the military industrial complex has a much tighter grip over our political system than was previously believed, and just because Republicans are no longer in power doesn't mean the cash flow will slow down.

He's been letting down the Homosexual community, there was the recent protest event that comes to mind. I don't think he's done much to further civil rights in that respect, certainly not as much as he said he would during the campaign.

He's been letting down the medical community and the majority of democrats with his health care policy. Obama has the majority required to get it done, he should have never watered the bill down so much to compromise with the opposition. What started off as a decent attempt at health care reform has basically turned into a money pit. You know the old saying, try to please everyone and you'll end up pleasing no one. Republicans will never be happy with anything he does, they want to maintain the status quo and hamper his efforts at every corner.

Then, of course, you have the large portion of the country that will never be satisfied with anything he does, because they are wrapped up in partisan politics and he's not 'on their side'. These people have quite a representation on ATS lately, so I'm sure we will all be hearing from them in this thread. I've been disappointed in Obama, but I'm still open to the possibility that he could bring positive change. However, I was also very skeptical of many of his claims during the campaign, so his shortcomings did not take me off guard as I'm sure they did for many Americans.



But, then again, it's not even been 1/4 of the way through his first term in office yet, so he has plenty of time to make good on some of his promises. Do I honestly think that will happen? Not really. I am open to surprises, however.

Originally posted by plumranch

It may be because his $700,000,000,000 (or $3.7 Trillion total cost) stimulus package has now produced a net loss of 2.7 Million jobs instead of the 3 Million he projected it to produce.

Or no health care bill.

Or no Chicago Olympics.

Or that he doesn't know what to do in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Or that he apologizes to our enemies and betrays our friends internationally.

Or because Obama has basically done none of the things he promised he would do in his campaign...

I agree with everything else but I don't think he should be criticised for not winning the bid for the 2016 Olympic Games. The US hosted the games in '84 and '96. I think there are lots of other countries that should host it before the US gets another go.

Originally posted by System

Originally posted by plumranch

I agree with everything else but I don't think he should be criticised for not winning the bid for the 2016 Olympic Games. The US hosted the games in '84 and '96. I think there are lots of other countries that should host it before the US gets another go.

Actually he should be criticized being he arrogantly wasted his time going there. All the while creating a huge carbon footprint that this administration is so vehemently against on the tax payers dime. It was a dumb move and the administration should have researched the odds of it not coming to Chicago and it passed on.

But hey, at least we voted in history, we got a cool good looking president and now the World loves us.


[edit on 22-10-2009 by Tyr Sog]

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
Everywhere I go everyone is complaining how the President is doing nothing to stimulate the economy, everyone is complaining about a lack of work, everyone is complaining about their mortgages being foreclosed on, everyone is complaining about their cars being repossessed.

I hear complaints about Obama, too. Strangely, they are not based in reality. The people in your paragraph blame Obama for the economy, jobs, mortgages and their cars being repossessed, but all of that was well on the way to ruin before Obama even took office. It seems to blame Obama because they can't pay for their car is quite delusional.

The other day, I heard a woman talking about how they had taken her elderly grandfather to the hospital and that "if Obama has his way, Grandpa would have been turned away at the door."...

When I asked why she said that, she replied, "Because that's what Obama wants. That's the health plan he's trying to pass."

I asked which bill she was referring to.

"The one Obama wants."

"Do you mean the Baucus bill"?

"I mean the one Obama is trying to get passed"! she said with increasing impatience at my ignorance.

I tried, calmly to explain the process for getting a bill passed into law, but she wasn't interested. She wanted no part of logic. She just knew that "the bill that Obama wants" was going to turn her sick grandfather away at the hospital door because her husband had told her so and she fully believed it.

Considering the ignorance of the average American, I'm not at all surprised that Obama's poll numbers are dwindling. Fortunately, the polls don't have much to do with anything reality-based. And hopefully, Obama and the Democrats in Congress get their act together and start passing their agenda by November of next year.

America deserves it rubbish leaders, after bush now obama.

How could he possibly have a better approval rating?

I'm suprised it is this high.

Bush left him a mess, (come on, we know it is true) but it was actually not that big in comparison to what the left did with the stimulus and are planning on doing with healthcare.

Man you gotta screw up bad to make people miss G.W.

Obama passed the 'stimulus' which was nothing more than a democratic grab bag of pet projects and state screwing activities that provided nothing stimulating at all for the economy.

He paid billions to banks that had destroyed the wealth of a nation so that they could stay solvent long enough to do it again.

He has his psycho tzar team out there parroting mao, stalin, hitler, Dr Seuss and anything they can think of to piss off the populace. We are losing jobs all over the country and it isn't slowing down.

Health care...............not even going to try to explain that.

The Titanic had a better record than this healthcare thing will, except the healthcare bill only has lifeboats for congress and the administration. The rest of us will be locked in steerage.

GDP is down. Tax revenues are down. Taxes are going up. We have less money which is all relative because we are technically broke. We have more politicians creating more laws to take more out of our pockets and beat our economy into the dirt even more.

They are floating ideas of a second 'stimulus' even though the states aren't embracing the first. Only 18% paid out but we are paying interest on the other 600 or so billion which has not been allocated to stimulate anything, just cost 800 percent as much in state dollars to do mandated Federal political pet projects.

He lied about pulling out of Afghanistan and they still want to put in more troops. Now the left uses plagarized articles written by the right during the Bush years to explain why we have to stay and finish the job.

The rest of the nation that voted Obama into office is still having to work, pay bills, deal with high food costs, gas, mortgages, rent, deal with the daily grind that is getting steadily worse and actually wonder why President Barak Obama lied to them.



Ah, hell......
I could go on.

Cheer up and smile folks.

You got got that change you voted for.

[edit on 22-10-2009 by badgerprints]

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
Everywhere I go everyone is complaining how the President is doing nothing to stimulate the economy, everyone is complaining about a lack of work, everyone is complaining about their mortgages being foreclosed on, everyone is complaining about their cars being repossessed.

I hear complaints about Obama, too. Strangely, they are not based in reality. The people in your paragraph blame Obama for the economy, jobs, mortgages and their cars being repossessed, but all of that was well on the way to ruin before Obama even took office. It seems to blame Obama because they can't pay for their car is quite delusional.

The other day, I heard a woman talking about how they had taken her elderly grandfather to the hospital and that "if Obama has his way, Grandpa would have been turned away at the door."...

When I asked why she said that, she replied, "Because that's what Obama wants. That's the health plan he's trying to pass."

I asked which bill she was referring to.

"The one Obama wants."

"Do you mean the Baucus bill"?

"I mean the one Obama is trying to get passed"! she said with increasing impatience at my ignorance.

I tried, calmly to explain the process for getting a bill passed into law, but she wasn't interested. She wanted no part of logic. She just knew that "the bill that Obama wants" was going to turn her sick grandfather away at the hospital door because her husband had told her so and she fully believed it.

Considering the ignorance of the average American, I'm not at all surprised that Obama's poll numbers are dwindling. Fortunately, the polls don't have much to do with anything reality-based. And hopefully, Obama and the Democrats in Congress get their act together and start passing their agenda by November of next year.

How is it even possible to spend a trillion dollars and not fix a single thing? Or even two things? Well the Dems have made it possible. Things that could have been knocked out: mortgage crisis, healthcare, public education, Iraq/Afghanistan, starving Americans, open borders, unemployment, I'm sure you can list more.

Not only that, they are wanting a second stimulus! Please explain how you can support this.

Originally posted by inthesticks

Republicans will never be happy with anything he does, they want to maintain the status quo and hamper his efforts at every corner.

Always got to blame the Republicians, huh? You give a whole list of why his own party is losing faith in him, then follow it up with this. So, which is it?

You should re-read my post, especially before you pick out segments and put words in my mouth.

I'm not blaming Republicans at all, in fact I was blaming Obama and the Democrats for attempting to compromise too heavily with the Republicans, who obviously have no interest in reforming health care.

The reason Obama's numbers have been slipping is his own fault, the Republicans currently don't hold enough sway in politics to really influence anything. Anything that happens during the next few years, at least until the 2010 elections, is strictly on the Democrats. If they want to undermine their own policies and hamper their own progress by attempting to create 'bipartisanship' (a political impossibility), then that's their prerogative. It will come back to bite them in the end.

Reading comprehension is our friend. Perhaps we should practice it, shall we? Or were you purposefully trying to misrepresent my post?