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Topic started on 21-10-2009 @ 10:29 PM by HothSnake
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The Hegelian Dialectic has been used to influence our society for hundreds of years. An examination of history, and of how our current world is
organized, reveals the hidden manipulation of controlled chaos on the unwitting masses.
What is the Hegelian Dialectical process? Simply put, it is a mechanism for brainwashing, and thus controlling the masses, through controlled chaos,
war, debate. The formula goes as such, thesis vs. antithesis equals synthesis. Legitimize a fake conflict, debate, or crisis, and then present a
resolution, ie., bring about a desired outcome. A perfect example of this formula at work in present day society would be the fake two party system
utilized in American politics, eg., left vs. Right, Republican vs. Democrat. What amounts to two sides of the same coin. The differences between the
two are merely cosmetic, and not legitimate. Thus, legitimizing all kinds of non-issues, while ignoring any real ones. Hence, nothing really
changes, no matter who is in office.
To understand the grip that this mind control program has had on society through the ages, you have to understand a little historical background.
First, we will begin with Georg Wilhelm Fredrich Hegel, the father of
Hegelianism, whose philosophy of absolute statism as opposed to the rights of the individual, has led to communism and fascism in 20th century. Born
in Germany, he was one of the most influential philosophers of the 19th century.
There were two major emerging, and seemingly contradictory, branches of the Hegelian tree (Hegelian philosophy was mostly a confusing mesh of
contradictions, thus leading to several interpretations after his death in 1831): the Left/Right young Hegelians, which Engels and Marx were one of
these, and the existentialism and pseudonymous works of Soren Kierkegaard. We shall focus on the young Hegelians, especially those that led to
fascism and communism, and their influence on the 20th century.
From 1831 to 1832, William Huntington Russell(founder of the American chapter of Skull and Bones at Yale University) studied in Germany, and was
almost certainly influenced by the young Hegelian movement that was going on at the time. It is believed that while there he was initiated into a
German secret society that was centered around Hegelian thought, and was commissioned to begin and develop such an institution in the U.S.. That is
exactly what he appeared to do with Skull and Bones at Yale University, where the word “WAR” is inscribed within the innersactom of what is
referred to as the “Tomb”, which is the headquarters of Skull and Bones. This is a clear reference to the Hegelian Dialectic, which is controlled
war or chaos, leading to a predetermined outcome. Set society at odds with itself in a fake and contrived conflict, and you can lead them anywhere
you want them to go. This institution seems to have influenced several generations, and had its hands in every American government since its
inception.
The Fascist/Nazi movements in Europe, and Communist movements in Russia, certainly seem to have been influenced and developed through Hegelian
followers. Both WWI and WWII were financed on both sides by the agents of Hegelian thought.
WWI: Samuel P. Bush (Bonesman George W. Bush’s Great Grandfather) was instrumental in supplying arms to both sides of the war.
WWII: Prescott Bushwas instrumental in financing Hitler, through his
leading role in the Union Banking Corporation, which was later seized by the American government, when said act was later discovered.
Through the Federal Reserve Board over billion of American money has been pumped into Germany. You have all heard of the spending that has taken place
in Germany...
Modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories. All this was done
on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board has pumped so many billions of dollars into
Germany that they dare not name the total."
Congressman Louis T.McFadden (D-PA) who served twelve years as Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency.
Cold War: a bogus conflict that was financed in large amount from American affiliated
sources.
Government: Republicans vs. Democrats.. Two sides of the same Skull and Bones coin. The Bonesmen Bush’s took over the Republican party, while
their Skull and Bones buddies (Harimans) took over the Democrats.
Iraq War: this bogus conflict of CIA induced and created Muslim extremism vs. the Western imperialism of the Right wing Neocons.
You see, a boogie man must be created and perpetuated within the Hegelian Dialectical process in order to create an environment of sufficient
confusion and chaos that can bring about the change that certain elites deem necessary for controlling the masses and cementing their power. All
around us you can see this process in action. Everything seems to be divided into separate, but equal camps of thought and conflict: Right vs. Left,
Republican vs. Democrat, Black vs. White, Muslim vs. Christian, East vs. West, Men vs. Women, straight vs. gay, etc… Even in economics you will
find the proponents of the Hegelian Dialectic, espousing their nonsense in the form of Crisis management (you have Rahm Emmanuel and Hillary Clinton
repeating the same mantra about not wasting a good crisis).
It is clear that we have been unduly manipulated over the past two centuries by these charlatans of the Hegelian Dialectic. By creating a fake
crisis, and legitimizing it through fake debate, you can tell the masses that Santa Clause is in need of special financial help or there will be no
more Christmas, and the masses will buy it hook, line and sinker, thus lining up to give their life’s savings. Scare the people enough with all
manner of menacing hobgoblins, and they will follow you right off the cliff to their own destruction. History has born this process out to work like
a charm.
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reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 10:34 PM by EMPIRE
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It is a shame that many people on this site don't know what it is. I had someone on this site tell me it was a bunch of crap, but he was a skeptic
and had never heard of it, so I can see why he did it. Anyway, thanks for the post.
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reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 10:37 PM by Historical-Mozart
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Outstanding post, HothSnake. S&F for you.
Problem -- Reaction -- Solution is what this entire Hegelian Dialectic boils down to and they sure have been successful, haven't they?
Ignorance is bliss? Meh. More like piss, but bliss for the elites, for sure.
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reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:49 PM by whateverponcho
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i find it strange how this is so obvious a fact to some but that most are completely oblivious about it.
i tried to tell my girlfriend about how governments have been doin this for years and she doesnt care, has no idea how its relavant to her at all.
crazy..
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 04:11 PM by HothSnake
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A few things that I need to add to this... You're right, the modern actualization of this same formula is problem, reaction, and then solution,
which can be seen in just about everything our government does, e.g., the current economic crisis, and the subsuquent massive bailout solution with
the take over of the private sector.
Another example in history would be Communism, which uses a clearly defined Hegelian Dialectal formula: The bourgeoisie(thesis) vs. the
Proletariat(antithesis) equals Communist revolution(synthesis.)
It's funny to me how this same formula has been used against the masses for over a hundred years, yet we never seem to catch on. I guess that is the
brilliance of the system, that it fools the people into thinking that they came up with the predetermined solution all on their own. History keeps
repeating itself, yet we never seem to learn from it. For example:
Panic of 1907: British banking interests, through their agent J.P. Morgan, spread falsehoods about certain banks failing, forceing a run on these
banks, and thus creating this false panic, i.e., false conflict within the economy of the U.S.. The solution, of course, was to let J.P. Morgan
procure a bailout of several of these banks, resulting in the forced take over of several independent banks, as well as other sectors of the economy.
Morgan and Co. effectively cemented thier power over the American economy, which created their grand solution and eventual predetermined outcome of
the Federal Reserve System in 1913.
Panic of 2008-2009: The banksters again manufactured a banking crisis, as outlined in the Rollingstone article
" Inside the American Bubble Machine", and
then proposed another bailout program, the likes of which we have never seen. As a result, the deficit has grown by trillions, and now the government
owns General Motors, along with several other companies.
Swine flu: Most of those that haven't been around long enough do not realize that we have been there and done all of that already. In 1976 there
was another government propaganda induced pandemic, also coincidentally dubbed "swine flu". There were PA announcements all over our television,
mass hysteria in the MSM, and a government mass vaccination program. More people died from the vaccine, than supposedly died of so-called swine flu.
Today the MSM is working 24/7, drumming up mass hysteria on a scale that I haven't seen before, uging us all to get their pretty little H1N1 vaccine,
when less than 1% of those that come down with supposed virus experience any other complications other than the common cold. And figures that are
constantly cited, reporting the number of deaths resulting from this virus are skewed. Most of these deaths had nothing to do with the so-called H1N1
virus. Simply put folks, it's 1976 all over again.
It's also interesting how every decade or so a new menacing hobgoblin is resurrected for us to run from. I grew up in the 80's, and in those days
it was the Cold War, and every movie seemed to have the same theme of "the Soviets are bad and we have to stop them." Movies like Rocky 4, Red
Dawn, etc... Propaganda tools, like the doomsday clock, etc., were used to convince us all that we had better spend as much as we can arming
ourselves in order to keep pace with the Soviet machine (arms race). Then came 1989 and the fall of the Soviet Union, with the realization that it
was all just a fraud. The Soviets weren't as powerful as we thought, infact, we learned that we had kept this boogie propped for years, just like
the Nazis.
Today we have the Islamic extremism boogie man vs. the Christian west equals American Imperialism, and the subsequent invasion of countries all over
the world. 9-11 clearly was an inside job, and Osama Bin Laden a.k.a. Tim Osman was a CIA plant used for decades by our government, during the Cold
War sham.
Clearly we are but marionettes on a string, and our Hegelian masters keep manipulating us into all kinds of stupidity and madness.
Congressman Steve Symms declared, "Few Americans fully appreciate the extent to which their tax dollars are being used to finance their own
destruction. United States loans to the Soviet Union through the bank now total over 760 million dollars . . . U.S. tax dollars are not only propping
up a ruthless dictatorship but are helping to arm our enemy to the teeth . . . It would long ago have died a natural death, had it not been for
repeated injections of lifeblood that are still being pumped into it today. . . Modern day liberals often refer to these kinds of suicidal giveaways
as `meaningful cooperation in the spirit of detente' It use to be called treason." (American Security Council, Washington Report, March 11-15,
1974)
Congressman Philip Crane declared, "To provide the Soviet Union with the sophisticated technology it needs to surpass us, while not demanding any
concessions in return, and subsidizing the transaction in addition is a one-sided policy designed solely to our own detriment." (Congressional
Record, July 10, 1973,)
It's the same old sham over and over again, and it's high time we caught on to it. Recognized that without a state contolled media, like we have in
this country, this system for enslaving the masses could not function. Without the constant bombardment of the public by propaganda, the Hegelian
Dialectical process could not operate efficiently.
By now, many of you are probably asking yourself, "If all this is true, why hasn't the media told us?" John Swinton, former Chief of Staff of the
New York Times, answered this question while giving a toast before the New York Press Club in 1953: He is quoted as follows: "There is no such thing,
at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write you
honest opinions, and if you did, you know before hand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the
paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish to write honest opinions
would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my
occupation would be gone."
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 04:26 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 05:19 AM by LightBenderKev
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How do you credit Hegel as being the father of Hegelian Dialectics, when faced with the scientific discovery of the atom?
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 05:26 AM by muggl3z
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Problem, reaction, solution.
1. Create the problem.
2. Get expected reaction.
3. Offer solution. (Which was the object of manufacturing the problem.)
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 05:33 AM by LightBenderKev
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1. proton
2. electron
3. neutron
4 everything else
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 06:55 AM by WalterRatlos
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Originally posted by Historical-Mozart
reply to post by HothSnake
Outstanding post, HothSnake. S&F for you.
Problem -- Reaction -- Solution is what this entire Hegelian Dialectic boils down to and they sure have been successful, haven't they?
Ignorance is bliss? Meh. More like piss, but bliss for the elites, for sure.
I like to think of it more in terms of: thesis, antithesis, synthesis.  and the Hegelian Dialectic is a historical principle or a method for
looking at history and the development of civilised societies. As a scientific tool it stands on it's owns merits and is subject to usual peer review
in scientific communities.
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 07:06 AM by LightBenderKev
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I don't understand, on the one hand we reject the value systems of the so called world's elite, and then on the other, spend hours upon hours upon
hours studying and stressing, and cramping over their diatribes that amount to nothing more than "psychological masturbation".
Everyone of us uses what you are referring to as Hegelian Dialectics, many times, everyday of our lives.
How do I know this?
Because I prefer Pepsi over Coke, of course.
Hegelian Dialects is merely intellectual ejaculation around the conflict created between two opposing forces, and whether or not the outcome, CAN BE
controlled. Usually it's more a case of, "well, how does this work for us?", because as you know, "the best laid plans of mice and men."
Are we justified in our own "how does this work out for me" mentality?
No.
Does that stop us from relentlessly pursuing this position?
Nuh uh.
"Judge not, lest ye be judged." That's in their "holy" books.
~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 12:00 PM by LightBenderKev
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Sorry.
Yes, for all to see, that is what it looks like when you fall down in front of the "big boys".
But according to THE GREATEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME(i dare you to DISPUTE this!!! ;D)
"Why do we fall?"
"So that we can learn to pick ourselves up!" WHY OF COURSE!!!
I would like to publicly EAT my WORDS right here for all to see!
This thread of thought form, IS NECESSARY TO THE PROCESS!
The beauty of realizing how flawed you TRULY are, is the PATH to reducing the harmful affects that may follow through in the "ripple". Or the
"echo".
Ya know, that whole "time" thing! YYEEESSSH!
Again, I apologize for my totally NEEDED DEMONstration!
~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~
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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 02:14 AM by Ridhya
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Psychological warfare at work! Brilliantly written my friend. Perfect examples of simple methods.
You know what they say, if you want to control the riot, lead the rioters. So they are head of the 'bad guys' in any scenario that way they can play
the hero! The way I think of it is the old stereotype description, youre on a date and your friend pretending to be a thug steals the girls purse, and
you defeat him to swoon the girl - same thing. Solve a crisis you created, and theyll love you for it!
Thank you for the connections with skull & bones very much, I found it most interesting and useful. These 'hegelian' societies create sides they do
not take but pretend to take - we call it the 'illusion of choice'. It makes people feel like they belong and rally against the enemy - it feels
good to blame someone and have countless people agree with you.
Sometimes within the group to recruit members, they will say that evil is necessary and they are just filling that role, think of it like the movie
villain! Someones gotta be! Or maybe that good and evil are just 2 sides and they just happened to pick one... and its only seen as evil to the others
who picked differently! Good recruiting tactics by the way. They downplay their malevolence.
I am working on some psychological warfare threads I think you will enjoy!
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