The Warning - Brooksley Born and the Unregulated Derivatives Market, page 1
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Topic started on 21-10-2009 @ 09:41 AM by Erasurehead
I watched an outstanding episode of Frontline last night. It really did open my eyes and I recommend that everyone watch this.

The episode is about Brooksley Born, a lone Washington outsider back in the late 1990's warning everyone about the unregulated and secret derivatives market. She warned that without regulation and transparancy of derivatives trading the entire financial system could be at risk. This was during a time when the markets were flying high and nobody wanted to hear it. She was attacked and silenced by the big three financial wizards of the time. Greenspan, Rubin and Summers.
You can watch it from this link:
www.pbs.org...

In early 1998, Larry Summers, called Born to "chastise her for taking steps he said would lead to a financial crisis. But Born kept at it, unwilling to let arrogant men undermine her good judgment. But it got tougher out there. In June 1998, Greenspan, Rubin and the then head of the SEC, Arthur Levitt, Jr., called on Congress "to prevent Ms. Born from acting until more senior regulators developed their own recommendations." (Levitt now says he regrets that decision.) Months later, the huge hedge fund Long Term Capital Management nearly collapsed--confirming some of Born's warnings. (Bets on derivatives were a key reason.)

www.thenation.com...

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York organized a bailout of $3.625 billion by the major creditors to avoid a wider collapse in the financial markets. This saved LTCM and prevented a financial meltdown. Even after this happened Brooksley Born was still ignored. 10 years later in 2008 her prediction came true and the financial system nearly collapsed and had to be saved by the tax payers. She was right and nobody cared because people were making tons of money. If they would have listened to her back in 1998 the 2008 collapse could have been avoided.

"We didn't truly know the dangers of the market, because it was a dark market," says Brooksley Born, the head of an obscure federal regulatory agency -- the Commodity Futures Trading Commission [CFTC] -- who not only warned of the potential for economic meltdown in the late 1990s, but also tried to convince the country's key economic powerbrokers to take actions that could have helped avert the crisis. "They were totally opposed to it," Born says. "That puzzled me. What was it that was in this market that had to be hidden?"


By the way the derivatives market is still unregulated to this day even after the financial crisis. Two of the big three people that prevented Brooksley Born from regulating derivatives are now major players in the Obama administraion, Larry Summers and Robert Rubin.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:17 AM by Erasurehead
reply to post by wakinup13



I agree. The numbers are shocking and the scary thing is nobody really knows what is going on with these derivatives.

There's a $700 trillion elephant in the room and it's time we found out how much it really weighs on the economy.

Derivative contracts total about three-quarters of a quadrillion dollars in "notional" amounts, according to the Bank for International Settlements. These contracts are tallied in notional values because no one really can say how much they are worth.


The total value of all the stock markets in the world amounts to less than $50 trillion, according to the World Federation of Exchanges.

www.marketwatch.com...




reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 12:10 PM by Kaytagg
Originally posted by Erasurehead
I am not an economist but I will give it a shot.
Derivatives are also known as credit swaps. Basically it is these large financial institutions trading some of their risk to other institutions to offset potential losses.
That's not how investopedia defines derivative:
A security whose price is dependent upon or derived from one or more underlying assets. The derivative itself is merely a contract between two or more parties. Its value is determined by fluctuations in the underlying asset. The most common underlying assets include stocks, bonds, commodities, currencies, interest rates and market indexes. Most derivatives are characterized by high leverage.


As I posted earlier:
Derivative contracts total about three-quarters of a quadrillion dollars.
The total value of all the stock markets in the world amounts to less than $50 trillion.

Can you see how this could cause financial collapse not just in the US but globally. There is not enough money in the world to cover these derivative contracts. So what happens if everyone wants to cash in all at once. I am no financial genius but it does not sound like everything is ok.

[edit on 10/21/2009 by Erasurehead]


Derivatives aren't just for stocks, so if the market is really valued at 750 trillion dollars (how the hell did they come up with that figure?), it could be explained by commodities, currency, real estate, etc. If this is the case, then the 750 trillion may not be as much as it sounds (I'm still wondering how they got that figure).

As long as there is an underlying asset to the derivative contract, what is the danger?
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