ALERT: Special Swine Flu Update, something you need to know , page 2
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reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 10:48 AM by underduck
reply to post by antar



OK ... relax a bit for a second. Deep breaths. We could sit here all day screaming what if the sky falls but there is no reason to think that would happen. What if the plan is to exterminate the independant thinkers? The independent thinkers are not getting vaccinated.

The universe has a way of working itself out. Just dont panic ... Have some fun today.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 10:51 AM by antar
reply to post by underduck



I AM Having FUN today!

I dont think you understood, what if NOT taking the vaccine is a death sentance?



reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 10:52 AM by marg6043
reply to post by antar



No, he may not, but I am sure that whatever he will be getting is not what the rest of the population will be getting anyway.

I never believe no even once that our elite in nation will be getting the same as the rest of us.

I can only imagine the money that will go into vaccines that are just for the few and for the right price.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 10:54 AM by antar
reply to post by marg6043



I have to run a bit but wanted to thank you for starting this thread, I will be back!

Keep the info coming.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 10:58 AM by underduck
reply to post by antar



My mistake ... maybe I did miss what you were trying to say.

Well if that is the case ... Screw it ... I would rather take my chances with the big flu over being one of the 500 million that TPTB choose to break thier backs building a new civilization. Hell, we might get lucky and just get mutated a bit and can spend the rest of our lives trying to scare the "normies" who are trying to keep the human race going.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:01 AM by Helmkat
reply to post by emsed1



I agree, Swine Flu is being played up as a distraction. We have far larger worries going on then Swine flu. Everyone needs to make an educated decision about the shots, I've never had a flu shot and don't see the need for one. However a pregnant co-workers daugher caught it and it rapidly spread through their home. Not good.

Treat the subject seriously but don't blow it out of proportion is my take on the Swine flu.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:05 AM by GideonHM
reply to post by emsed1



Actually, you build immunity naturally by exposure, getting sick, tending to the illness, and finding a natural recovery (i.e. bedrest, fluids, and natural foods rather than the garbage we usually eat). The more we rely on technologies to prevent disease, the more likely we are to find a strain that refuses to respond to treatment.

Penicillin, Amoxicillin, and the rest of the anti-bacterial slew are becoming increasingly useless, and virii are no different. They will evolve to overwhelm our medicines and then you face massive die offs because a majority of populations have compromised natural immunity for the quick fix of inoculations and the illusion of health governments are all too ready to push on their populations.

Immunizations have proven benefits and there is no reason to believe you are better off avoiding a polio vaccine. I knew a woman who became a paraplegic from the polio vaccine live virus mix, and I still recommend people to get those basic shots. It's just good sense. Still, not over doing medications is the first line of defense against super bugs and disease, but too many people are already over reliant on so many drugs, and they can easily dismiss one more as just a part of life.

Once it's too late, it's too late.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:09 AM by marg6043
reply to post by dizziedame



Did she got worst after taking the Tamiflu? I will like to know if you don't mind, remember Pneumonia is the same secondary and main complication that also will affect anybody even during the regular swine flu season.

I hope things will work for her and she recuperates in a timely manner.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:24 AM by wylee
reply to post by dizziedame



I wish your neice the best. The WHO has declared there is a link between the swine flu and pneumonia. Here's a story from the SF Gate from two days ago.

Swine flu is more likely to lead to pneumonia

Swine flu can turn particularly nasty for a small subset of people -- usually, but not always, those with compromised immune systems -- and should be treated quickly and aggressively with antiviral medication in the hospital, says the World Health Organization.

For most of us, a bout of the swine flu would be no worse than catching seasonal flu. You'll suffer with fever and body aches and feel generally miserable for a few days, then bounce right back.

But epidemiologists have noted that some patients very quickly get pneumonia on top of the swine flu, making their cases difficult to treat and often requiring ventilation. When these patients show up in hospitals, they should be treated immediately with antiviral drugs, even if swine flu hasn't been confirmed, WHO officials said today.

The recommendation came out of a three-day conference in Washington to discuss the swine flu pandemic.

Doctors have noted that the pattern of severe illness associated with the swine flu is "strikingly different" than what they see with seasonal flu, according to WHO officials. Three to five days after their first symptoms, patients begin to deteriorate and many go into respiratory failure within 24 hours after their conditions worsen.

Severe illness is most common among pregnant women, especially those in their third trimester; children under age 2; and people with chronic lung disease, including asthma. Neurological disorders can increase the risk in children.


Just a head's up.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:38 AM by marg6043
reply to post by KyoZero



One of the things that my husband enjoy since he retire from the Marines is the option of vaccines, he used to complain all the time about the vaccinations.

And he is also one of those veterans that received untested vaccines and drugs during the first gulf war.

I hope the young girls will recover fast and without complications, we all be keeping her well being in our minds.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:50 AM by wonderworld
What is very weird is that my kids tested positive yesterday for swine flu. 70 kids were absent from school yesterday. The doctor said 99.9% of all flu’s are H1N1. The kids were prescribed Tamiflu but all the pharmacies in my town are out of the pediatric Tamiflu. I finally got the pharmacist to “compound” it in to a liquid suspension form. They said there is a global shortage of the pediatric kind.

Here is another weird thing. The doctor said we still need to get the H1N1 flu vaccine because it is coming back in the spring. I thought we couldn’t catch the same virus twice. I assume when it comes back in spring it is a mutated version, therefore seems that the vaccine wouldn’t be effective.

The doctor insisted that when the vaccines are available one of my children with an underlying condition is forbidden to take the live nasal mist vaccine and to only get the shot.

I read the nasal mist causes a person to be contagious for 21 days. Why do they give a live vaccine? If it isn’t safe for one of my children how do I expect it to be safe for the others?

I decided to treat my kids with Tamiflu, even though I’ve read that is has dangers. I justify this thinking most medicine has it’s dangers, if we read the fine print. I don’t trust the vaccines and I don’t trust Tamilflu. It’s a shame we cant trust our educated leaders.

I am upset there is so much confusion about the vaccines. Since we already have the flu I doubt we will take the shot. What should I do if my trusted physician highly recommends it?

This flu is progressing rapidly. I heard rumor that another nearby town had 50% of the population sick with H1N1.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 12:31 PM by exile1981
reply to post by wonderworld



I have heard that star anise tea helps too. Sorry to hear about your little one.
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