Of Emperors and Sky Gods

Absolutely brilliant!
S&F.
I have tried to find out about this stuff for ages, with some, but not much success.
You've saved me a lot of hard work here, and I appreciate your sterling efforts.
Thanks again, and keep it rollin'.
Cheers.
I.A.

Edited for crap spelling.

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interesting stuff...

in response to:

""first people of earth. There's also that tribe in a part of Africa that have knowledge of the star systems that they say was handed down to them by visitors from the stars, I can't remember the name. post by Nventual""


i think it's the Dogon tribe... it's thought the missionary teachers contaminated their tribal memories/traditions


then:

+"I do think it is strange that ancient cultures could come up with the concept of other "suns" post by reject""


the Maya and Inca, Aztec al have a number of 'Suns'... in fact the 2012 begins the 6th 'Sun' as we leave this 5th 'Sun' era behind
i think the Hopi also tell us this is the 4th 'Sun'... so the term 'Sun' does not necessarily mean a different STAR ... or that particular Sun in the center of that solar system...


Then:

""Huang-Di (2697-2598 B.C.) is considered to be the first emperor of China and the ancestor of all Chinese. Chinese scholars have always argued whether Huang-Di was “real” or “mythical”. Depending on the source you can either read that he was a god-king, a mythical-king, a real king, a god-like-king, a “son of the heavens” or a half-god..OP by skyfloating""


Huang-Di ammounts to that regions' Archtype...just as the Egyptians & Greeks had theirs...Hermes & Hermes Trismegistus -

snips from the search engine:
""Theosophical History spiritual biography and quote. ... Hermes Trismegistus. Hermes is a legendary figure, a God even. He is identified with the Egyptian Toth.Hermes Trismegistus - Theosophical History ""


//""Although largely unknown today, the writings attributed to Hermes/Toth have been immensely important in the history of Western thought. They profoundly influenced the Greeks ...Although largely unknown today, the writings attributed to Hermes/Toth have been immensely important in the history of Western thought. They profoundly influenced the Greeks ""



the Hermes-Toth knowledge has lasted +3000 years in egyptian mystery schools see::

www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Egyptian-Mystery-Schools.html

www.katinkahesselink.net/his/Hermes-Trismegistus.htm


mysterious appreances by master teachers, who brought medicine, arts, engineering & civilization to Neolithic mankind = sky gods?

You put a seed into the ground and then let it grow on its own. If you keep digging it up to see whether its growing or not, its not going to grow. Maybe thats a reason. Maybe we are that seed or those children. (?)

All of the options you listed also remain possibilities...

Yes. Ancient texts report a lot of war between gods and gods, gods and men, men and men and a lot of suffering. I´ll get into to those things in parts 2/3 in a few weeks.

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A thing can only grow to its full potential with proper care, guidance and nourishing. These beings left entrusting only a select few with any real understanding - their chosen bloodlines. How can we ever have had any real chance to grow when deliberately left in the dark about so much ? That is not open, honest, altruistic care, it smacks of control and manipulation. Just my opinion......

Maybe so. Im not going to trust entities who pose as Supreme Beings although they are not. But after all the research and reading I conclude that there are "the good guys" and the "bad guys" around. The angels and...there mere ETs...

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Its interesting you would connect Hermes and Huang-Di. I´ll ponder that.

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I agree that that is a very interesting comparison. If anyone would like to read some of the works attributed to Hermes Trimestigus, I have quite a few of them at the link in my signature. I recommend that you click the "Time" tab to put them in the order I uploaded them in. The Hermes stuff starts on the third page; and continues for part of the fourth page.



As for my input on the OP's posts on ancient sky-people, I am very grateful for all of the work you put in to collecting that data. It made for some fascinating reading. I have heard about some of those sky-people before, but never before in such detail.


I recently came across some information about the culture of the "Ancient
Kuzhebar"; which came to mind as I was reading about the OP's post.Here is a link to what I have found so far: nadishana.com...

I am intrigued in particular by the description of the culture's ability to create " their own tunnels of reality, live in different worlds, epochs and places..." I have not had much luck finding any more info about them; so if anyone has any more info about them, please feel free to u2u me.

I must say that this is a very interesting thread and I look forward to reading parts 2 and 3.

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S&F For an above average well executed and thoroughly riveting post.

In this day and age one has to be pretty mutt headed not to observe the ancients were clearly discussing beings descending to earth.

If we choose to accept this then the only questions left are where did they go and will they come back.

Thanks for an excellent read.

Great stuff! S & F

I just hope when we die that all these answers are given to us. It would really suck to never know for sure.

Great post, thanks for all the work, enjoyed reading all the tales.

I notice that in many of these sky god stories, it seems that the sky god is a lone traveler, or that he brings very few people with him. They don't talk about a group of gods, but a single god. I would think it a group of gods arrived, the tales would be about several gods.

It seems that the Chinese gods were first conquerors, and then benign rulers, who had children with human mothers. This suggests they were very close to being human in form. They also seem to spend several years here in Earth living with humans, before returning to the sky. It is as if they had some sort of mission to complete here on Earth.

Many other gods seem to have this single sort of presence, while some tales have multiple gods here who seem to all have specific tasks, like say the crew of the starship, with the Captain, Science officer, doctor, communications, engineer. They argue, possibly get into fights, or maybe things go wrong, and they argue over how to do things, and it appears that they are fighting with each other.

Then you have the Jade Emperor, who doesn't seem to have human form. Then of course Jehovah, who takes the form of a burning bush. Plasma life forms perhaps?

Maybe five to seven thousand years ago, there was some important reason for an advanced civilization, or civilizations to interfere with humanity? Could they have seen some great catastrophe about to happen on planet Earth, and then decided to interfere to save humanity?

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Skyfloating, you always outdo yourself when researching these threads. I also think this is an apt thread given your moniker here.

Well done and full of information, I always look forward to reading your material.

Of course the ET's may not be from a planet other than Earth. To my mind, it's just as likely that they are from an older age of Earth's history, maybe even before it was called Earth. It could be that they had their own awakening, their own ascension, and outgrew this planet and went on to explore the universe. If some had remained behind to start a new cycle, and inspire their journey towards awakening, they may not have wanted us to know their true origin. Perhaps they even left behind the shadowy secret groups that we talk about so much on this site, with a mission to ensure our ascension by keeping us from becoming complacent and too untroubled to grow.

My own journey of discovery led me to the realisation that when we are really honest with ourselves, even our most fervently held "facts" are not facts at all, but merely our best guess that has not yet been disproven. There's so much about our early years that is absolute guess work that's been delivered with enough confidence that few question it, and those who do get met with ridicule and scorn because we've become so conceited about how knowledgable we are.

When science's best answer is "We don't know", then science is shown to be an inadequate measure, just as blind faith in a religion is inadequate. These "ancient astronaut" theories are often cast aside, but the simple fact is that they do something that science and religion cannot do - they offer a possible explanation that actually fits the evidence, and the witness accounts of the tribes that has been passed down from generation to generation. When we ask the tribes who built that huge massive structure over there and they say "Oh, that was the sky spirits. Our ancestors tell us that they landed in a big shiny bird, taught us how to grow crops, and built that so we would know when to plant the crops", we smile patronisingly and cast it aside, because we clearly know better, those primitive ancestors did it themselves and then lied to their children about it. It's our conceit that we've answered all the questions, when in truth we don't even know which questions to ask.



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wonderful.
what struck me and stuck was the vietnamese creation theory, namely, the first three stages: first there was nothingness, then there was duality, then dieties.

fascinating. all of it is, though, i can't wait for parts II and III

From what I understand some superior-Gods seem not to be physical beings but rather etheric or celestial while the rest are indeed interplanetary...

(see post prior to mine)

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Well-laid out OP. Creative, imaginative and illustrated.

I don't subscribe to the 'ancient astronauts' explanations for the wide array of ancient human achievements on Earth. Human endeavor can be celebrated and denigrated in various proportions.

Who's responsible for the mechanical, technological, structural advances in the modern world? If we can do it now...why not then?

If we can do it by ourselves since the 'ancient astronauts' left, who's to say we lacked the ability then?

If we can do it by ourselves, why even imagine the presence of 'ancient astronauts?'

A bigger question is this: Who taught the alleged 'ancient astronauts' about technology?

The implication is some alien world evolved a species that could create stone monuments and travel the stars creating species and showing them how to make stone monuments. Why is it somehow implausible, to some people, that we humans could learn to build from the commonest material on the planet? If these astronauts could evolve intelligence and make an impact on the environment, I've never understood how we could not?

That seems amazingly accurate and puts everything in its place...the Infinite, then Duality and then Deities/ETs/Humans etc. That progression can be found in other origins-mythologies too.

You wont find me claiming that they were built by the Gods, you`ll find me saying some of them were built for or in honor of the Gods.



Not me.



Because all of the accounts tell us about them.



Thats another question that goes back to metaphysical origins but it blows the context of this thread which examines possible human origins or their contact with reported "Sky People".



That may be the implication of other authors of the subject, but it is not the implication of the OP.