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reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 07:41 PM by SpacePunk
reply to post by oozyism



Where did I say anything about religion?

Believe whatever hackneyed thing you want. I boiled it down, but evidently it wasn't bland enough for you. Have you even been to the area, or do you depend on whatever pablum you are fed by msnbc and cnn?

Personally, I think the west should just give up on the area, cut off all ties, all aid, let them kill each other off, and leave them to die in their own filth.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:14 PM by oozyism
Originally posted by SpacePunk
reply to
post by oozyism



Where did I say anything about religion?

Believe whatever hackneyed thing you want. I boiled it down, but evidently it wasn't bland enough for you. Have you even been to the area, or do you depend on whatever pablum you are fed by msnbc and cnn?

Personally, I think the west should just give up on the area, cut off all ties, all aid, let them kill each other off, and leave them to die in their own filth.

Yes I'm from Afghanistan... Raised as a Muslim, now trying to find my way...

Any ways that has nothing to do with what Muslims believe...

Yeah your personal opinion I respect, why doesn't your government just leave that area? They don't want you there, it evidently shows.


reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 12:24 AM by SpacePunk
Originally posted by oozyism

Yes I'm from Afghanistan... Raised as a Muslim, now trying to find my way...


I'm from Germany, never have worn lederhosen, couldn't do a Bavarian dance to save my life, don't find beer all that thrilling, and can't speak the language. Origination has nothing to do with experience.

Ever deal with the Taliban? Been forced to wear a burkha? I'm sure Afghanistan was better under the rule of roving bands of thugs that enforce arab culture over persian culture. It was probably better under the Talibans medieval arab style rule. Perhaps Soviet rule was better?


Any ways that has nothing to do with what Muslims believe...


The whole thing has nothing to do with what Muslims believe. It has everything to do with midieval arab culture.


Yeah your personal opinion I respect, why doesn't your government just leave that area?


They certainly don't listen to me. I don't have investments in the area, and I have no pull with the leadership in that area. The respective governments really just have to tell the U.S. to get out, but money talks.


They don't want you there, it evidently shows.


Who doesn't want us there? Random arabs with no education? The governments? The street sweepers? Cooks? Some generalized 'them'?

I give it two weeks until the Taliban is beating people in the streets of Afghanistan once we do leave. For Iraq I give it maybe three weeks before that country descends into total chaos when we leave there. But that's their problem. If the people want to let the arab midievalism take over, that is their choice. They just have to get their governments to realize that the chance at a modern life isn't something they want, and that barbarism is a saving grace.



reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 01:24 AM by oozyism
reply to post by SpacePunk



Simply you don't like there way of life, it is alright, but then you should realize that there are people in the opposition who doesn't like your way of life. You might think your way of life is all handy dandy and might think everyone loves but that is just not true.

You are the one forcing your way of life on others, imagine if those Arabs or Persian, Muslims simply came to the US and implemented Sharia. I wouldn't be surprised if I see you running around with an AK and a grenade, and as your last resort suicide bombing due to overwhelming opposition power. So have a think on all sides, all views, not just your own and your own people.

I was raised as a Muslim, I lived under Taliban regime, then me and my family ended up in a refugee camp in Pakistan. Forced Burqah? Once again, you seem to think everyone wants to live your way of life, have you ever thought that maybe Western teens are being forced to wear mini skirts? Why else do they wear it in winter cold, minus degrees? They wear mini skirts in snow? Do you suspect they are being forced? But then again anyone has the capability of assuming, but not the capability of viewing the whole picture.


reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 01:32 AM by acmpnsfal
reply to post by oozyism


Nice post, I think a lot of people often forget when they are the majority where they live that right for them is not right for everyone. However, on the mini skirt point, I think you were being a little over dramatic. Teenage girls in America for the most part like to be fashionable and attract love interests so they dress according to whats popular. Its part of being a teenager, one of those things you look back on and laugh at.....its not a religious statement....you could make the case for peer pressure but they are not forced to wear them out of fear of physical retaliation.


reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 01:54 AM by oozyism
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
reply to
post by oozyism


Nice post, I think a lot of people often forget when they are the majority where they live that right for them is not right for everyone. However, on the mini skirt point, I think you were being a little over dramatic. Teenage girls in America for the most part like to be fashionable and attract love interests so they dress according to whats popular. Its part of being a teenager, one of those things you look back on and laugh at.....its not a religious statement....you could make the case for peer pressure but they are not forced to wear them out of fear of physical retaliation.

Yes peer pressure I agree. Muslim girls wear Burqas even when they move to West, no physical retaliation, it is very much the same.

The individuals who physically assault girls for not wearing Burqas are criminals, just like any criminal who physically assaults someone for what ever reason, it is not based on religion. Islam doesn't condone such activities.

It is a cultural issue, the people of that region need to change their own culture, not an occupying force.

To allow comprehension, look at it this way, see in America if you go out with an American flag and burn it in front of a patriot you have a high chance of getting physically assaulted.

If you wear blue in a blood neighbor hood you have a high chance of getting physically assaulted. Even though it is not illegal to wear blue.

Here in NZ I have been stopped many times by Police officers who advice me not to wear all blue or all red. Because they know there is a risk, the same went for Afghanistan, people were advised not to wear miniskirts and so on and so forth.

It is just the way it is, you can't forget the norm of a society and expect everything to be OK.

I hope the clarification helps everyone understand.



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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 08:21 AM by SpacePunk
Originally posted by oozyism
reply to
post by SpacePunk



You are the one forcing your way of life on others, imagine if those Arabs or Persian, Muslims simply came to the US and implemented Sharia. I wouldn't be surprised if I see you running around with an AK and a grenade, and as your last resort suicide bombing due to overwhelming opposition power. So have a think on all sides, all views, not just your own and your own people.



They are trying to implement Sharia in the UK. The whole paradox about Sharia law is that according to Islam it does not apply to the non-Islamic, but in countries where arab midievelism is rampant, they apply it to everybody in direct violation of Islam.

As for the burkha, I'm sure that it's native to Persia. Your people have already let the fifth column of backward arab thinking take over your country. We won't allow it in ours.


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 02:41 AM by OmegaLogos
reply to post by Republican08

Explanation: Not under Attack?

I'm quite sure I can provide heaps of evidence of the US being under CONSTANT attack....but before I blaze away upon this memetic battlefield with reckless abondon, I will 1st ask that Republican08 disclose exactly how they define what an attack on the US actually is for the purposes of this thread.

Personal Disclosure: FYI and IMO! Once is happenstance, Twice is coincidence, Three times?, Now that's when your under attack!
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