Originally posted by sirnex
reply to post by LeoVirgo
If God, any God or group of Gods is the creator of everything, then everything man considered to be evil would be a direct causation of the act of
creation. If the God of the bible is not the one true God and his defined meaning of evil is the defined meaning of evil as man defines it, then what
is true evil? What does the real God say is true evil when we have no written word from the true God? How are we to be sure that his version of Evil
is not the same as how we define evil? Perhaps our view of evil is skewed from a speciest angle. We don't consider it evil for an animal to kill
another animal and yet us being an animal killing each other is somehow evil? Animals kill over territory, they don't peacefully coexist raping
resources from each other.
Well this is where the path becomes a lifetime journey, of discerning what is of flesh and of spirit. It takes years literally, because it takes many
experiences to learn from. All the answers are in all things. Everything is a cycle of energy. The word Evil has defiantly been tainted to be
something as bad and something that we dont need. BUT----we do need the darker side, so we can see a difference in it and the lighter side. We need
the night time to be thankful for the sun light. We need sorrow to fully embrace how great happiness is. We need the selfish ones to show us how only
selfless will help us become better as a whole unit. We need death to be thankful for birth...so we embrace our time here as precious and not wasted.
We are given feelings for a reason. Guilt, regret, sadness, happiness....all feelings lead us. Alot of people are so desensitized that they cant tap
into guilt or regret when they act in ways of flesh. What makes you feel good? Does helping someone make you feel good? Does holding a baby make
precious feelings in you arise? What does hating someone make you feel like? Do you hold any hope at all for those you may hate? It takes years, mabey
even many lifetimes....to discern these things.
Im not a believer in God created out of nothing. I believe God emanates, one thing flows into another, and then another something flows from that
former something. Emanation has a order, a cycle, a pattern. The law of reaping what we sow is a cycle, an order, a pattern. Everything in nature that
you can see shows us this....a cycle, a order, a pattern. What is evil....if we need it to learn what is really 'good'? They are both needed for the
purpose of this sphere and the souls dwelling in the flesh. We want to look at 'evil' as bad....but we learn from it...so how bad is it really? So
its just easier for me to place these two differences in other words besides 'good and evil'. When I use the words 'flesh and spirit' it all
starts to make sense.
Im in agreement that the image in the Bible is not displaying what the nature of Spirit is in totality. But I learn so much from it, by learning
carnal mans ways as well as ways that are of the Spirit.
You brought up animals killing eachother as mabey being a event that some would call 'evil'. I think this is a bad example to use...for we as humans
are above that. We are able to problem solve, to scrutinize all possiblities of a problem and solution, we are able to use logic and feelings, and
form a reaction with both. If someone tried to kill me or my children and I act in a surviving mode and I kill them in defence....is that evil? That
is a better senerio to discuss. Even then, its going to depend on how much that person is living for the life of flesh (this life here and now) or the
life of spirit.
I would like to bring up the choice that the man Jesus made when his life was at stake. He walked a path against many. Many did not like what he had
to say. In the end, he turned the other cheek and ask for those who know not what they do to be forgiven. This is a great example of living for the
spirit and not for the flesh. If Jesus would of fought, possibly harming another or even killing another in defense for his life of flesh....he would
of only been harming his own karma, he would of been sowing seeds of the carnal way...not of spirit. To find this path and the reasons one would walk
such a path can take a long time and many experiences.
Just personal thoughts