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Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 Firefighters
“[Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr.] explained to me [Lavello] that, ‘many other firemen know there were
bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.” Paul further
elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks.
‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ he told me.”
Isaac also addressed the FBI gag order in an article by Greg Syzmanski, saying “It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear or
retaliation or losing their jobs.” He mentions that the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials prevented them from
openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11. Syzmansky praised Isaacs in a highly interesting article titled One-Man Investigative Team.
“Over the last four years he’s compiled information and names of civilians and firefighters, whose identities he keeps anonymous for their safety,
who all claim to have either witnessed explosions in the towers or have information that a controlled demolition took place.” Isaacs is quoted as
saying, “It’s just amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,” again regarding Woolsey’s FBI gag
order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11.
So, why would former CIA director Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, be gagging Isaac and his colleagues about what they
saw and heard, i.e. bombs exploding in the building if not to cover up the government conspiracy, the inside job behind the supposed demolition of the
WTC by two jetliners, whose fuel fire supposedly melted the redundant steel frames which caved and caused a pyroplastic free-fall of each building in
some ten seconds. All at once the conspiracy of the lone Muslim airliner hijackers destroying the towers goes down the drain, glub, glub! That’s why
Firefighters and Police Officers were gagged.
www.infowars.com...
It is truly a sad day in America when our jobs come first instead of the truth.
With this many firemen and police officers who witness this dreadful crime, they had an obligation to come forth I think this is un-American to
conceal the truth. They are only helping the criminals in covering up their crime. Let’s put it this way if I was a firemen and I witness bombs
going off in the WTC then you the criminals in the Bush administration will have to kill me because, no gag order will keep me quite.
All you debunkers have laugh at the Truth movement saying there was no proof of who gave the gag orders so here it is. Every day more and more of the
OS crumbles into a pit of lies.
Ex CIA this tells me without doubt that they are covering up for the Bush administration false flag operation. I do not know why a grand jury has not
been put together already.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:35 PM by ChinkyMonkey
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:40 PM by groingrinder
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Everyone knows the government would never hoax anyone don't we?  Just check out how many of President Bush's political allies made BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS EACH ON THE WAR IN IRAQ. Coincidence? No way!!
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:48 PM by hoghead cheese
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I know about truth and they do too, but they also know about real life. Lets say you are married or not married but do have family members. If you
no that their was bombs that went off and the Federal govt. told you to shutup, you might have to. Because if someone or group was willing to plant
tons of explosives in a building, how easy would it be for them to plant a pound or two under your mothers car or spouse etc. etc.. It's the fear of
knowing that you are witnessed to a very large conspiracy and thats what keeps your mouth shut. Because if it did happen the people involved would go
to any means neccessary to make sure said person or persons don't talk. Fear is a powerful tool, and it does work.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:50 PM by star in a jar
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Let’s put it this way if I was a firemen and I witness bombs going off in the WTC then you the criminals in the Bush administration will have
to kill me because, no gag order will keep me quite.
It's a truly tragic situation, a situation that goes across all the boards all over the world; People don't speak up because they fear the loss of
their associations, their families, their jobs, their money- what makes themselves and their lives.
It is how they are controlled. We know that if we make too much waves in the pool of control, they will toss us out of the pool or kill us in it. The
PTB know this as well of course and have used it against us since time immemorial, and if we as lower class or middle class serfs do nothing and
don't take power back and reorganize it to our suits this same cr@pol@ will continue.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:50 PM by hoghead cheese
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:50 PM by impressme
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No offense to the OP, because you have obviously been hoaxed by this website.
This has to be the biggest bunch of BS ever written in the history of man.
I am the messenger. Where is your proof that this is all a hoax? You are only giving your opinion nothing more.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:54 PM by ChinkyMonkey
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Where is your proof that this isn't just hearsay? My proof is that it comes from infowars.com, which is known for making up stuff.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 07:57 PM by impressme
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I have a question, it seems that when ever there is a 9/11 thread it is under intense scrutiny from the forum people. I wonder why.
Because, 911 topic is on of the most sensitive topic of all time and when people uncover more and more truth the harder it is for people who are in
denial to deal with. And there is a lot of mud slinging.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:04 PM by hgfbob
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Originally posted by ChinkyMonkey
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No offense to the OP, because you have obviously been hoaxed by this website.
This has to be the biggest bunch of BS ever written in the history of man.
the only BS, is the covering up of what they heard saw and felt
What were all those explosions going off in WTC3, (The Marriott Hotel), after the second impact and before any tower fell...What blew up the first
three flights of stairs, stairs the FDNY, just went up moments earlier, trapping them on the 4th floor.
FDNY A Rivera's testimony is 100% proof of something happening 'other' than what we were told...He, and the other members of FDNY that were
'both' victims and rescuers, trapped by debris from the explosions, their story of heroism and courage can NEVER BE TOLD....
just because it happened AFTER the second impact, and BEFORE any tower fell
.....I think that kind of SUX
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:06 PM by impressme
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I do not disagree with you however, if we continue to keep our mouth shut, it will come to a point one day that we will not have any freedom left
because, we all kept our mouth shut. Sorry, freedom comes with a price and it might cost me my job, it might cost me my life, it may cost me my
family life, but, if people start talking what are these criminals going to do, kill everyone? No, I don’t think so. We the people gave these
criminals in the Bush administration this power. We gave them this power by keeping silence!
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:16 PM by impressme
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Where is your proof that this isn't just hearsay? My proof is that it comes from infowars.com, which is known for making up stuff.
I am not in here to convince you of anything. Like, I said I am the messenger take the information anyway you like. That’s your business do your
own research I am not going to do it for you, just because you think our government is not capable of doing a false flag because you have never
researched the information to begin with. Doesn’t mean the information I have provided in here is false, does it.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:28 PM by impressme
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Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Theory' is a Conspiracy Fact
Before beginning this article, I met Auxiliary Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr. at the World Trade Center
Memorial. Paul, along with many other firemen, is very upset about the obvious cover-up and he is on a crusade for answers and justice. He was
stationed at Engine 10, across the street from the World Trade Center in 1998 and 99; Engine 10 was entirely wiped out in the destruction of the
towers. He explained to me that, �many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they�re afraid for their jobs to admit it because
the �higher-ups� forbid discussion of this fact.� Paul further elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department�s
Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks. �There were definitely bombs in those buildings,� he told me. He explained to me
that, if the building had �pancaked� as it�s been called, the falling floors would have met great resistance from the steel support columns,
which would have sent debris flying outward into the surrounding blocks. I asked him about the trusses, and quoted the history channel�s �don�t
trust a truss� explanation for the collapses. He responded in disbelief, and told me, �You could never build a truss building that high. A slight
wind would knock it over! Those buildings were supported by reinforced steel. Building don�t just implode like that; this was a demolition.�
Just after the disaster, Firefighter Louie Cacchioli said, �We think there were bombs set in the building.� Notice he said �we�. At 9:04, just
after flight 175 collided with the South Tower, a huge explosion shot 550 feet into the air from the U.S. Customs House known as WTC 6. A huge crater
scars the ground where this building once stood. Something blew up WTC 6 - it wasn�t a plane; it must have been a bomb of some sort.
The seismic record from Columbia University�s observatory in Palisades, NY (21 miles away) provides indisputable proof that massive explosions
brought down those towers. At the precise moment the South Tower began collapsing, a 2.1 earthquake registered on the seismograph. At the precise
moment the North Tower began collapsing, a 2.3 earthquake registered; however, as the buildings started to crumble these waves disappeared. The two
�spikes�on the seismograph, which both occurred at the exact instants the collapses began, are twenty times the amplitude, or more than 100 times
the force of the other waves. If the buildings had simply collapsed, the largest jolts would have occurred when the massive debris struck the earth,
not at the beginnings of the collapses. Seismologist Arthur Lerner-Lam of Columbia University stated, �Only a small fraction of the energy from the
collapsing towers was converted into ground motion. The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small.� In other
words, the collapsing did not cause 2.1 and 2.3 magnitude earthquakes. Furthermore, a �sharp spike of short duration� is how underground nuclear
explosions register on seismographs. Underground explosions, where the steel columns meet Manhattans granite would account for both the
demolition-style implosions and these �spikes� on the seismograph. Another seismologist at the Palisades observatory, Won Young Kim said the 1993
truck bomb did not even register on their seismographs because the explosion was �not coupled� to the ground. Imagine the magnitude of explosions
it would take to register the two earthquakes, when the truck bomb didn�t even show up.
The American Free Press reported that in the basements of the collapsed towers, where 47 central support columns (per building) connected with the
bedrock, hot spots of �literally molten steel� were discovered more than a month after the attack. There is only one explanation for this: An
explosion of unprecedented magnitude destroyed the bases of the columns, then the massive structures buried the impact points, trapping the intense
heat below for all that time.
The tower which was struck second suffered less damage from the plane because it was a less direct hit and most of the jet fuel was seen ignited
outside the structure� yet this tower collapsed first. Just before this collapse, the firefighters were up on the burning levels and were heard
saying, �Battalion seven� Ladder fifteen, we�ve got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines.� How
could two isolated pockets of fire destroy the bases of the support columns causing the buildings to implode? Paul Isaac told me, �Based on video
footage of the collapse of the South Tower, the structural collapse is not consistent with the angle the building was struck.�
Why was no investigation permitted of the debris? Dr W. Gene Corley headed the FEMA sponsored engineering assessment of the World Trade Center
collapse, which performed no tests on the steel for traces of explosives. When asked about this process known as �twinning,� he responded, �I am
not a metallurgist.� Dr. Corley also �investigated� the debris at Waco and Oklahoma City� and we all know how thoroughly those
�investigations� were performed.
No government agency performed forensic examinations of the rubble; no effort was made to validate their official story. The rubble was quickly loaded
onto ships and delivered to China for smelting. These are the actions of criminals disposing of evidence! By these actions, FEMA proves itself to be a
subversive element in our government!
Former Deputy Director of the FBI, John P. O�Neil stated, �The main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil corporate interests
and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it.� Can you think of anyone (Bush) linked to both wealthy Saudi Arabians and U.S. corporate oil? John
O�Neil resigned from the FBI after 31 years of service after Barbara Bodine, currently part of the Iraqi transition team, barred him from following
up his investigation of the attack on the U.S.S Cole. He took a job heading security at the World Trade Center� his first day of work - September
11, 2001. John O�Neil received the job from Jerome Howard, Former Director of the New York Office of Emergency Management, who happened to have the
day off on 9/11. We may only speculate on the case of Mr. O�Neil, but he does seem to be a person which U.S. oil corporate interests would want out
of the way� especially during these wars for oil and power in Iraq and Afghanistan.
www.prisonplanet.com...
There is some very good information in here for those of you who have never researched anything about 911. There is way to much evidences that’s
supports demolition on the WTC.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:29 PM by ATH911
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:33 PM by susp3kt
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My worry is this:
If all of this is true and it was indeed a controlled demolition, surely they knew that they couldn't contain the truth about it forever. What event
could be coming down the pipe to cover their tracks?
It would have to be a big enough catastrophe/event by comparison to make people totally forget the fact that this was staged. It would also have to be
planned to occur within a short time span relative to September 11, 2001 to prevent private investigations from uncovering the truth. Because we all
know they have not, and never will as long as this regime is still in power, conduct a proper internal investigation.
Just a thought.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:39 PM by impressme
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Because we all know they have not, and never will as long as this regime is still in power, conduct a proper internal investigation.
I agree but, who can be trusted to do an internal investigation to many people in our government are corrupt.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 09:03 PM by mike dangerously
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I can't blame the firemen here,y'all James Woolsey is a former director of the CIA I can see why they would be intimidated by that and that's what
he's counting on here the fact that in the end people are worried about keeping their jobs so issuing a gag order is an easy thing to do in this
instance.Although we have had many,many firefighters coming out and talking about what they saw.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 09:40 PM by Joey Canoli
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 09:58 PM by impressme
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Where is your sources or do you believe in posting them?
Yeah, right! We are going to believe you. LOL If you are the only source then I wouldn’t believe a word from you to begin with considering your
stance, that it appears you believe in the OS only and nothing else, says it all.
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 10:01 PM by Joey Canoli
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