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Originally posted by thoughtsfull
I just wanted to respond to the comment of Americans not having baggage. Why on earth do you celibate the 4th of July if you have no baggage, or if you have left all your baggage behind!
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by GypsK
One I am 50% Cherokee and 50% Irish I diddnt do anything. As well as 300 Million Americans who were not alove at that time period. Also 100 Million Americans Ansectory came to America from 1840-1920 I dont think they had anything to do with it... as well as there are what 50 Million Blacks 40 Million Hispanics, not to mention roughly 35 Million Others... So whats your point?
Also the 9-11 thing, yes in the 80s the CIA backed Bin Laden against the Soviets, Bin Laden got pissed when Saudi Arabia allowed for US forces to Throw Saddam out of Kuwait. Hence the attacks on America since that day.. No 9-11 was not an Inside Job the goverment is to stupid to carry off that attack.
I will blame Europe for the Americas past woes.... Being that Europe was in Control from 1492-to 1776 in North America... So dont pin your nations faults on ours.
[edit on 20-10-2009 by poedxsoldiervet]
You said, "- and yet here we seem to be at fault for wanting to bridge these supposed divides. What the #? "
Friend, you must realize a certain portion, if not the majority of Americans, do not want to bridge any divides. Oh yeah they'll say they want to, but ask them how to move forward and you'll see they NEVER offer a viable solution to achieve progress.
They'll resort to the "get over it" mantra I constantly see on this board, or the new one, "You end racism by ending racism" which is absolute comedy and BTW, was also posted here on this site.
Now if you tell them one of the steps of moving forward is to stop talking and to start listening, you'll hear that you're "speaking like a woman"(which also has been stated on this board) for even suggesting that the failure to listen vastly contributes to the problem. Moreover, if you even attempt to show these Americans that they benefit directly or indirectly as a result of the hardships of others, they will call you a racist, slander your name, encourage others to do it, star and flag each other after they do it, and never take a step forward to resolving anything.
Moreover, they’ll cite examples in their lives, and show you a “woe is me” scenario in hopes of somehow disproving the fact that they do benefit from the atrocities mentioned.
You're dealing with a group of individuals with warped ideologies and a reliance on false comfort zones. In fact, the only time they seem to stand up and trumpet any 'righteous cause', and I use that term very loosely, is when their comfort zones are on the chopping block.
When that happens, you'll see them hooping and hollering about how this is bad, who this is designed to harm that, how people need to revolt against the government, how they aren't responsible for that. However, those like yourself and the OP, who are consistent in their thinking and deed, will look at American foreign policy, the Eurocentric values most Americans cling to (even though they slam Europeans),
the denial of privilege and come to the logical conclusion that these people are hypocrites, murderers, covert and blind racists (two different things), rapists, thieves, and outright sinister. They'll hide all of this under the veil of nationalism or patriotism, but those who don't have blinders on can see it for what it is.
Manifest Destiny anyone? That's how the power base was setup to be run in this country, on the backs of others...from sharecropping to credit. It's not about big business, it's about doing the least amount of work possible while maximizing profits, to the max!
I have personally talked to black folks that have traveled to Europe. You don't find it funny that the Europeans outlawed slavery before America, particularly the British?
Naw chief the problem ain't Europe...it's America and the hypocrisy that built it's own foundation. What we see know is it's accumulation. Karma is a mother**** and this country as a whole is just getting it's cumupins.
You reap what you sow
Originally posted by Sam Vimes
From my experience, this nonsense blame game stems from the fact that not many Europeans have been to America.
Originally posted by doctorvannostren
However, I dont think anyone ever originally stated that Europe was a country in the first place. Is it a crime to use the all-encompassing name of your continent instead of listing individual countries? Im pretty sure he wasnt just thinking of one individual country and typed in Europe by mistake. For example, if I said something like "Europe is garbage" I would mean that every country on the European continent is garbage.
Originally posted by dooper
They resent the fact that they even needed the help.
And that, friends, is the core of the European problem with Americans.