can you kill an animal by hand?, page 1
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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:02 AM by vor78
reply to post by nixie_nox



Possible, yes, but not very practical. They can be caught off guard just like a person can, but its generally very difficult and you're also putting yourself at high risk of injury if successful. Just imagine getting bitten by a rabid squirrel or rabbit in a survival situation. Deer? No thanks. Despite the Bambi reputation, they can easily kill a person if they decide to attack.

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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:07 AM by TheRedneck
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Possible? Yes.

Practical? No.

In order to kill an animal without long-range weaponry, you basically have to become an animal yourself. Very few people can do that. I am not sure I could do that.

In the wild, despite what you see on APL, predators actually kill very rarely. Most of their attacks are thwarted. A typical predator is always hungry, always stalking, always looking for an opportunity, just to eat enough to survive. This despite the fact they have claws, teeth, and bodies designed specifically to hunt down and kill other animals.

We, on the other hand, do not have claws to rend flesh. We have nails to stabilize fingertips. We do not have jaws designed to rip out large hunks of flesh. We have jaws and teeth designed for eating small bites of about anything at leisure. We do not have rippling muscles that propel us at high speed towards hapless prey; we have bipedal legs that allow us to stand upright and see farther to plan for our next move.

Hope is not lost; in a survival situation, the one who uses that intelligence he has been given by nature will be the one who eats the best. Sure, we lack the tools to act like a lioness on the prowl or a wolf chasing down deer, but we do have something else: the intelligence I alluded to. We can set a trap to ensnare an animal. We can fashion tools to throw or shoot to allow us to strike from a greater distance. We can fish, using bait to entice fish into falling for the hook.

All of these things can be done using nothing more than a trusty pocketknife and some knowledge. But our greatest physical advantage, one which we share with bears and swine, is that we are not solely dependent on meat; we can also harvest for those times when the trap isn't sprung, the fish aren't biting, and we don't have the time for hunting.

So no, breaking a deer's neck with your bare hands looks great in the movies, but it doesn't work well in reality. Instead, we have something greater than brute strength and speed: our minds.

TheRedneck

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:18 AM by endisnighe
reply to post by nixie_nox





It just seems highly implausible that an animal could ever be snuck up on.


You never, ever try to sneak up on a wild animal. Hand to hand combat with any wild animal will get your ass tore up. A deer will kill you with a single kick. Do a youtube search for that guy beat the hell up by one. It looks funny but he was lucky. I have seen a dog tore up from a groundhog.

Oh, one other thing, if you catch a cute bunny rabbit. If not butchering right away, twist their head off to allow the blood to drain. Bloodshot rabbit meat tastes awful. Blood of any animal will breakdown the meat and make it the consistency of snot.

I figured I would give you some graphic descritions. I grew up on a dairy farm and we pretty much butchered are own meat.


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:24 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by endisnighe



Ugh, you reminded me of an awful story. Once in elementary school I was the first on a playground. I ran to the swingset to find it all twisted with a deerleg wrapped in it. Poor thing must of gotten entangled in the swing and lost its leg. I remember the janitor coming out and getting it.

I like the responses, thank you. I would think that the neanderthals are more likely to trap or chase an animal off a cliff then sneaking up on it.


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:27 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by endisnighe



I should of specified that the neanderthals had spears. They didn't kill by hand. But I still find it not very feasible that 3 neanderthals can sneak up on a huge deer and kill it with a spear.

I have plenty of deer im area. They are even half tame. Used to humans, only once (behind a fence and felt safe) was I ever able to walk up to a deer.


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:45 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by h3akalee



Tickle them? I have never tried to tickle a trout.


I know that in a survival situation, and I needed food, I will take this advice to heart and sent you many thanks.

but I can't stand the thought of ever reaching into a bank and moving my hand around.

I just have a fear of doing that. I am worried about things other then trout. LIke snapping turtles that can take a finger.

I could never do noodling, unless desperate.

I also have a fear of fish spines.


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 08:58 AM by Jkd Up
reply to post by nixie_nox




I would find it rather easy to kill an animal by hand. But first I would snare said animal. Then you would be free to take your time and await for the animal to wear itself out. But that time it'd be easy pickins.
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