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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 09:19 AM by LordBucket
reply to post by AccessDenied




I'm not a believer in alien abduction theories.


There are other possibilities. I recommend you not make assumptions.


HELP!


First, understand that people here on ATS have agendas. There will be any number of people who will tell you all about how it's aliens responsible, and fill your head with their solutions. There will be people who will insist that it's medical, and try to rush her off to a doctor. Some will insist she's delusional and try to dismiss her problems.

I encourage you to ask her to examine her situation, and not blindly accept any explanations given to you by people here on ATS.


into this new apt.
could he have disturbed some spirit attached to the house


If the problem manifested immediately after moving into the house, then it's very likely the problem is related to the house. Whether it's a spirit or a demon or an alien or a ghost or a who-knows-what...these things are just different names given to things we don't really understand.

The simplest solution is to leave the house.


she spends the night with friends instead of going home.


See? Whatever it is, you say it does not follow her when she leaves. So her options are simple:


1) Leave the house. Move.

2) Attempt to identify the problem and deal with it.

3) Ignore it, or accept it.



I recommend she not choose option 3. Option 1 is probably the safest choice. If she chooses option 2, there will be people willing to help her, but it means dealing with her situation until it is resolved.

Let us know what she decides.


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 09:27 AM by LordBucket
reply to post by beta.services




The best thing to do in this situation, is to try and fall back to sleep.


To the original poster, this is an excellent example of people on ATS feeding you their own answers based on their own assumptions. This reply, as well as a few others have latched on to the words you used: "sleep-paralysis" and they are completely ignoring everything else you said and basing their answer on these two words.

Yes...if it's simply "sleep paralysis" that she's experiencing, then she doesn't really have much cause for concern. But "sleep paralysis" is not the end-diagnosis of the problem. You are simply using those words to try and describe what she's experiencing.


The one thing that she would want to try and avoid thinking about is either what she hears/see's when she first opens her eyes, or whatever she was dreaming about prior to opening her eyes.


The amazing quality of bad advice that is available here on ATS sometimes astounds me. Yes, your daughter is frantic, and is waking up screaming and is so terrified that she's sleeping elsewhere...and the advice people here are giving you is "Oh, just don't think about it. Ignore it. Pretend it doesn't exist."

Please...examine your situation. Don't assume that any advice given here is correct. Nobody knows what your daughter is experiencing but her. Nobody here can give you a complete diagnosis based solely on what you've said.



reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 02:33 AM by DataWraith
reply to post by LordBucket



People can only give advice genuinely IF they have experienced it, they can only give hearsay advice if they heard ffrom another party , I myself HAVE experienced sleep paralysis on 2 occasions, I even wrote the experience down.

My first experience was very frightening for me being a middle aged man I can tell you.

It started ine night , I was sleeping on my left side in the foetal posiition, it was dark obviously being nighttime, I had my wife lying next to me to my left.
I woke up unable to move, or speak and then I noticed out of the corner of my eye a small hunched over figure down by my feet ( I have my pillows 2 of them with the top one folded over ( making 3 levels of pillows , wierd I know)), this figure looked as I can only describe as a gnome, grey in colour about 3 feet all, it disappeared behind my back, I didn't feel anything touch me or anything like that but I remember trying to call out to my wife but all that came out of my mouth was a croak, barely audible even to me. I fell asleep again. but a few minutes later I woke up in a panic and looked frantically round the room. Nothing was there. so I went back to sleep or at least tried to with no success and at 3 in the morning I spent the day being very tired.

2nd episode I was again sleeping left sided in the foetal position, my wife in her ususal placeon my left, when again I awoke unable to move, I again saw the gnome dispapear behind my back but THIS time I also noticed a hooded figure at my feet, it seemed about 5 foot tall, cloaked in shadow and seemed to have a hood over its head, but I could feel the eyes looking at me, there was a very faint light behind it so I could determine its outline, this time I got 'defensive' I thought " not again" and 'created' a green shield of energy surrounding both myself and my wife, it must have worked because the gnome was pounding on it trying to break through, I remember seeing 4 green white flashes as its hand bashed against my 'shield'.
I then stated in a very clear thought " I do not want this, begone from my presence" and the next thing I know they both disappeared. I woke up again later but this time actually felt better and not frightened at all.

I am also hoping for a third episode so I can try and 'communicate' with these 'beings' and find out who or what they are .

Also to note that I also have tried to astral project , meditate and use biaural beats quite often so I myself am open to alternatives, as for 'alien abduction I'm not sure unless I communicate with these beings , I also am open to interdimensional contact with them 'sedating us' physically so we can't resist or fight back and then hurt them?
Or it could just be a semi conscious dreamstate were we project our own fears when we suddenly become aware that we cant move , fell like theres a weight on our chest ( as some people describe) and its dark, we are still afriad of the dark IMO , and when we experience SP we project our fears onto a hallucinatory dream world. but we a re still semi conscious and able to remember it, You remember a dream if you wake up straight after it, but you don't if you pass through different dream stages. Maybe you should all look into all the web info and make your own minds up.

[edit on 21/10/09 by DataWraith]


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 05:20 AM by AccessDenied
reply to post by thesaint



I, of course searched the topic here first before posting....but I wanted fresh info from newer members.I found most of the older threads chalked it up to alien abduction.
She called me last night to tell me she had gotten no sleep at all for fear of falling asleep . Tonight she is coming over to my house and we'll see if being at home with mom is any comfort for her.
I asked her if she felt it may be stress related, and that could be the case, but not sure.
I will say however, that her place gives me the creeps, and she has decided to move out Dec.1.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 05:29 AM by beta.services
reply to post by LordBucket


My Advice is based on my own experiences.

And I never intended it in a way to never think of the issue. Obviously, once the person in question has had a chance to sleep, relax, calm down and is fully awake then would be the time to reflect on the situation and try and figure out what caused it in the first place.

But I stand by original advice. That at the time of the incident, it is always best to relax as much as possible. And to try to return to sleep as soon as you can.

Concentrating of the situation when you are in a state that is likely to induce lucid dreaming is something that you would want to avoid at all costs.


reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 08:19 PM by gazerstar
reply to post by beta.services



Great advice. That was exactly what I was going to say. I usually make myself go back to sleep. It's all anybody really can do.



reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:10 PM by IntastellaBurst
I have sleep paralysis all the time, however I use it as a gateway to out of body experiences.

I see sleep paralysis as some sort of " bug in the system", something that shouldnt really occur, but does for some reason or another. It is an inbetween state of consciousness, between this world and the next.

Most people experience fear in this state, because it is their first response when everything they know is turned upside down, and their body becomes usless. .....and when inbetween, when thoughts are instantaneous, fear can manifest itself in various ways, be it demons, aliens, a presence, or the thought of suffocation and death.

Since she has recently just begun experiencing this, and lives in a new location, ... the reason may very well be another entity, because believe it or not, they CAN attempt, and even succeed at pulling someone out of body. Perhaps its just a restless soul who seeks a playmate, or even just acknowledgement, ..... as they can't really communite on the physical level.

If this is the case, perhaps before she goes to sleep or after an episode she should tell this entity to leave her alone, as he is frightening her. If the entity is an a-hole, their are other, ... less friendly methods of dealing with them.

but either way, when sleep paralysis hits, her fear is what makes it frightening, most people would pay to have S.P. every night, and if it interests her, ... i do not think it would be hard to learn to out of body travel from that point.

When S.P. hits me, I do not fight it, .... I give in to it.

[edit on 21-10-2009 by IntastellaBurst]
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