Originally posted by AnnieNakkiWhat I want to know is why there is the mad rush to pass this health care stuff.....poll after poll shows
most Americans are happy with their health care....poor people already get free health care....so do illegal immigrants. It is illegal to turn poor
people away from hospitals.
I'm unsure where to begin here. The idea that there has been some "mad rush" to pass health care reform is not only illogical and inaccurate, it
borders on the insane. You do realize, of course, that health care reform was first debated in the US in the 50's and 60's; that again in the 90's
under Clinton there was a strong push for reform; and that the current debate has been the main focus of this and the last legislative period. It's
not as if anyone has rushed this through committee as they did the patriot act, and countless other bills.
Further, the claim that people are satisfied with their health care is extremely misleading. True, a majority of those that can afford it, or receive
it through their employers plans are satisfied with there insurance, and generally with the level of care they receive from their doctors. But what
that blanket statement fails to recognize is that there are millions of Americans (legal citizens with jobs and families) that cannot afford and do
not receive, health insurance from their employers. These people in most cases are not "poor" and so do not qualify for government aid (medicaid),
and are left to suffer...i.e. go without care, or face bankruptcy for even a simple hospital visit.
Plus, the idea that it is illegal to turn away poor people misses the point that it is only illegal to turn them away at the emergency room. They
still have to pay for that ER visit ...it is not free... but it is the most expensive form of health care. So, they may get treated initially at the
ER, but follow on treatment is generally unavailable, and without adequate insurance they will have to declare bankruptcy to take care of the initial
ER visit. Which in turn raises the COSTS which are then advanced to the rest of us paying customers. Pay attention now, because all of this is true
and is important.
Then, there are those with what they assume is adequate coverage who find later that they were, in industry terms, "under insured." Do you realize
that the majority of Bankruptcies in America today are caused by medical expenses, and that in a majority of those nearly 80 percent HAD HEALTH
INSURANCE - ( see - Himmelstein, D, E., et al, “Medical Bankruptcy in the United States, 2007: Results of a National Study, American Journal of
Medicine, May 2009)
I never fail to be amazed at the seemingly good hearted intelligent people who are willing to ignore the numbers and facts and believe what their
favorite politician or talking head says about health care. Ask around. Almost everyone I have spoken to has at least one acquaintance with a
horror story from their health care provider (insurance company ...NOT THE DOCTORS/HOSPITALS).
There truly is crisis in America, and yet we continue to play partisan politics. The Dems solution has been atrocious, but the Republicans don't
have a solution other than the status quo. The Baucus Bill only helps the Insurance companies, and yet there are people everyday on this and other
web sites and news outlet saying that there is no problem and we should really be afraid of health care reform because its.... duh duh duhn
If only people would grow up and quit being afraid of there personal boogie monsters we might get the stooges in DC to do whats in our best interest
instead of the bidding of their corporate masters, and until people stop falling lockstep in line with the views of their party that's just not gonna
P.S. - Uugh, I'm so sick of this debate I should see a Doctor...it's a good thing I have socialized medicine, as veteran I go to the VA hospital!
[edit on 20-10-2009 by Artephius Abraxas Helios]