Name the last war fought for YOUR freedoms!, page 2

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
One might exclude the banana wars, but even those were to protect our interests abroad.

Who's interests? WHO is OUR? By our do you mean US as a nation, like its in YOUR interest for a US owned corporation fascistly tied into the federal government to turn a central American state into a slave nation? Your first paragraph goes right to the source of what this thread is all about: this notion that if US corporations go somewhere and dominates a people that its US, like you and me. Tribalism at its worst.

Tribalism of this sort is at least somewhat understandable when its our military, although as this thread is chronicling, in practice tribalism with military affairs is absurd as well. Look at most wars ever fought, and apply the military tribalist mentality to it... think back to all of those colonialist nations, say France, yeah WE dominated those Vietnamese for decades. I doubt too many French would be proud of that... the thing is hardly any living French citizens ACTUALLY went over there and literally dominated them. Instead some people from their nation did, on the orders of their government. Therefore, few French actually did that, although any French that did support colonialist policies could technically count them selves in their whole "We" or "our" nonsense.

But your Banana Wars reference is interesting when we take your following sentence:

The world is interconnected and when freedom is denied anywhere it is a problem for all of us, more or less.

Right, so when we take freedom away from an entire nation, so that United Fruit can get us banana's at a few nickels cheaper, then its now a problem for us all. At this point, its safe to say that everyone who bought United Fruit bananas back in the 50's has the blood of the hundreds of thousands murdered, disappeared, tortued and imprisoned on their hands. I know I wasnt around back then.

Anytime there are those who seek global domination our freedom is at risk.

Right, and that would be the "US". Us! Global domination was the underlying element behind virtually every war and skirmish that video exists from each era, and going back even further.

I did a thread on this very subject a while back:
America's death toll on the world: 27,000,000++

Therefore, the wars in Korea and Vietnam were fought for our freedom, because if allowed to expand Communism would have taken the world by force and the effect would have been devastating.

After the Vietnam War Communism DID prevail there. After "WE" left, was it devastating? Did the dominos drop? How about the part where after WW2 Mein pleaded to the US to help get the French imperialists out of their nation so they could be FREE. He cited Thomas Jefferson as his hero. He was turned down, the French remain as the local tyrants. In their desperation to be FREE, they turned to the Commies for help. They had no choice because WE were already helping the French enslve them, and some sources say "we" were already in their with military forces before even that had happened.

I will say that the war in Nam was about communism, but it wasnt about communism in Vietnam. Take a look at a map. Who's next door to Nam? CHINA. Now look at where Korea is located. It was about putting imperial beacheads all around China's borders. Imagien if they had done that over here... you mentioning Guatemala above is interesting again: the fabricated propaganda to justify what "we" did down there claimed that the USSR was attempting to build such a beachhead. The odd thing is "we" had NUMEROUS REAL beacheads all around the USSR & China. Soviets finally actually did get one over here: Cuba. What a melodrama that turned into. "We" already had the equivilent of many Cuba's by that time.

As it is, the Communists murdered some 100 million innocent people during the twentieth century.

And many of them were their own peoples in their empires via bad rationing type policies. When you dice out those deaths, and look to how many died in their imperial conquests, the numbers murdered are probably about the same as my link above describes.

Even today, Marxist driven ideologies are a threat to our freedom, as we now have Marxists in Korea, South America, the Caribbean, and the White House doing their best to overtake and quash our American ideals.

If a war for freedom is to be waged it will be in our 'homeland', just the same as if a war against communism is to be fought it'd have to start in London, New York and DC.

Today, we have wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been entered into in order to engage those who foster global terrorism, which as some might have forgotten, led to two bombings of the World Trade Center, one of which destroyed them completely.

Wars for conquest. Simple as that. This little segment from a video I did awhile ago destroys the myth of the "war on terror":

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And parts 2&3:
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In the most recent attack, the terrorists also attacked the Pentagon. One of the hijacked planes on the day of the most recent attacks was probably destined for the Capitol building.

Those three targets represented our economy, our military and our government. ... The intent is pretty hard to ignore.

Right. The targets that represented "our" empire. Following the findings of the 9/11 Commission, they attacked "US" because "our" military empire is in their backyard. We have bases in most of those nations to keep the monarch dictatorships in power. "We" are instrumental in their slavery.

For those who cannot or refuse to look at the larger picture, long term goals are hard to understand.

Right. Global domination technological totalitarianism NWO.

[edit on 20-10-2009 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]