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"The concept of the rapture, in connection with premillennialism, was expressed by the American Puritan father and son Increase and Cotton Mather. They held to the idea that believers would be caught up in the air, followed by judgments on the earth and then the millennium. The term rapture was used by Philip Doddridge (1738) and John Gill (1748) in their New Testament commentaries, with the idea that believers would be caught up prior to judgment on the earth and Jesus' Second Coming. The concept of a pre-tribulation rapture was articulated by Baptist Morgan Edwards in an essay published in 1788 in Philadelphia.
John Nelson Darby, considered the father of dispensationalism, first proposed the pre-tribulation rapture in 1827.. This view was accepted among many other Plymouth Brethren in England. Darby and other prominent Brethren were part of the Brethren Movement which impacted American Christianity, primarily through their writings. Influences included the Bible Conference Movement, starting in 1878 with the Niagara Bible Conference. These conferences, which were initially inclusive of historicist and futurist premillennialism, led to an increasing acceptance of futurist premillennial views and the pre-tribulation rapture especially among Presbyterian, Baptist and Congregational members . Popular books also contributed to acceptance of the pre-tribulation rapture, including William Eugene Blackstone's book Jesus is Coming published in 1878 and which sold more than 1.3 million copies, and the Scofield Reference Bible, published in 1909 and 1919 and revised in 1967.
The Catholic and Orthodox churches as well as the Reformed denominations have no tradition of a preliminary return of Christ and reject the doctrine, in part because they cannot find any reference to it among any of the early Church fathers and find its biblical foundation weak.. Some also reject it because they interpret prophetic scriptures in either an amillennial or postmillennial fashion." Source
Many post-tribulationist writers have attacked the Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine by claiming that it cannot be true because no church writer or reformer ever taught this doctrine until approximately 170 years ago. While the real question for sincere students of Scripture must be whether or not the Bible truly teaches this doctrine, the argument that no one ever saw this "truth" throughout eighteen hundred years of Church history has been very effective, causing many Christians to abandon their belief in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. The only problem with their argument is that they are totally wrong."
"For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the Tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins"
(On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World, by Ephraem the Syrian, A.D. 373).
We should never 'think" for ourselves, we should only go by what the Word says, if we think for ourselves part of the time and the rest of the time we go by the Word, then we are "double-minded" as James says in his letter. The Bible teaches a few things:
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
But what if this rapture idea is something completely different than what you think or have been taught it is?
Jesus's path comment was speaking of salvation only, the rapture doctrine has nothing to do with salvation unless you consider only the saved will be raptured as "saints".
I'm not saying "something" unique doesn't happen to the individual believer (you remember the narrow path that Jesus said few actually find) but shouldn't we question a teaching that leads a whole bunch of people blindly down a wide path?
Why didn't this rapture happen during WW1 or WW2?
We are in the time of the "fullness of the Gentiles", or the preaching of the gospel to all people, perhaps there are tribes who have not heard the gospel yet? It only seems to us that we are 'on hold', everything happens on God's schedule, He is sovereign.
Can anyone tell me why we are in a time of delay, where everything seems put on hold?
What if there is a secret coming before the second literal coming, but it is not something that happens en masse but way more personal?
If you think about it, the people who will make up the mysterious body of Christ will all have something in common. God's Spirit will be upon them, and they will dream dreams and have visions to lead people. Obviously, the other thing this body of people will have in common is they will all be anointed.
Are you guys 100% positive, that what you believe to be the rapture is the correct teaching or is there a remote chance that what it actually is - is personal anointings taking place, until the full number of Gentiles are brought into this mystical body? Then at the Second Coming - it will be the anointed who will be able to stand before the Son of Man, when all go out to meet him? Did he not teach that not everyone who says "Lord Lord" will enter into the kingdom of heaven? Did he not on more than one occasion use statistics of a 50/50 chance of getting this right?
"...deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus.." -1 Thessalonians 4:17 (Latin Vulgate)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Now consider this, the Greek manuscript says "Harpazo" in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 And it could mean any of the 3 Greek definitions, but in the context of the verse we see that it means the 3rd one when we see that Jesus isn't "arresting" the Christians off the face of the Earth.