reply to post by conspiracyrus
I'm not sure why you were ragging on him...
I agree with him, a good tarp is much better than a tent. I'm an avid camper and camp as often as I can with the family. After being stuck in a storm
from a tornado a few miles away from us and having the tent just get utterly drenched and having a horrible night in it, I decided to buy a tarp.
Tarps pack down small, are light and heavy duty. They wick away rain a whole hell of a lot better than a tent and unless you've got that rainfly
setup just right, it's utterly useless at wicking away even the morning dew. With a tarp you can ensure a decent dry night. What really ticks me off
is you include a tarp and then rag on the guy for saying to ditch the tent. Hell, two tarps would be a good idea rather than one tent and a tarp.
Tents are simply crap and too heavy.
A lot of the stuff you listed for survival are simply unnecessary and would do nothing more than weigh someone down if they needed to walk a long
distance in a survival situation. You're essentially giving advice that would and could do more harm than good.
Hatchet and fixed blade? How about a machete instead? One item that can do the job of two! Hell, goto Bass Pro and get the one with a saw blade on the
back, three tools in one!
Multitool? What for? Are you fixing a small engine or geny in the middle of the sticks or is this an item for urban survival? If this is for urban
survival then why have a tent when you're surrounded by shelters? I see no practical reason to have a mutitool chock full of screw drivers out in the
woods. It's simply a retarded waste of weight and space.
Bringing booze? That does nothing for survival at all. It's a waste of weight, dehydrates and being intoxicated in a survival situation is akin to
simply jumping off a cliff.
Zip locks and trash bags will not keep your stuff dry. You need a good dry bag for that, they are designed specifically for keeping stuff dry. Last
thing I would ever do is put an extra set of clothing in a garbage bag in inclement weather. Simply unthinkable.
Hand sanitizer? Seriously? You realize that crap is half the reason we're getting resistant germs? The only thing's you *must* wash on the human
body are your hands, feet and crotch. I mean wash, not sanitize with antibacterial soaps. Unless you have a scrape, cut, boil or any other wound that
can get infected, there simply is no need to sanitize the hell out of yourself.
Carrying a few ways to start a fire is a good thing, but never should the reason to do so be "because I don't feel like rubbing two sticks
together". If those methods you are carrying fail for any reason, then you best damn well know how to rub two sticks together. Without fire, your
good as dead. In a survival situation you can't simply throw your hands up in the air and exclaim, oh well! Learn how to rub sticks together, it will
save your damn life.
People are simply too complacent and comfortable with modern day conveniences and technologies.
All in all, it's a decent thread, has some good information, and some not so good information and a few very useless thing's to bring in a survival
situation. I'd also toss out that shovel, yes it's lightweight, but save your money and use a digging stick. I'd also toss out the MRE's in favor
of pemmican and hardtack. It's used for emergency only after all, and I'd rather have something with an indefinite shelf life rather than a five
year shelf life as my back up emergency rations. Smaller and lighter as well than an MRE.