Originally posted by DaMod
The beam we see is an Anomaly produce by the camera. Notice that the "UFO" is behind the tree in the sky. The tree is no more than 200 yards from where this was shot. This far off object is projecting a "Laser" in front of the tree when it should be behind? Ok.....

No not from the camera from a hand held laser on the ground.

This far off object is projecting a "Laser" in front of the tree when it should be behind? Ok.....

The laser can be seen @0:18 on the ground in front of the tree hitting the trunk and can be seen going up the tree from the ground up than disappears in the tree and doesn't rise above it.

The Laser is than Graphically reversed to be attached to the chopper/light .


Zelong.

Originally posted by Zelong

Originally posted by DaMod
The beam we see is an Anomaly produce by the camera. Notice that the "UFO" is behind the tree in the sky. The tree is no more than 200 yards from where this was shot. This far off object is projecting a "Laser" in front of the tree when it should be behind? Ok.....

No not from the camera from a hand held laser on the ground.

This far off object is projecting a "Laser" in front of the tree when it should be behind? Ok.....

The laser can be seen @0:18 on the ground in front of the tree hitting the trunk and can be seen going up the tree from the ground up than disappears in the tree and doesn't rise above it.

This camera has an automatic exposure control. When it gets a bright light source it tries to reduce the image brightness to compensate. So when the flashing from the aircraft occurs, the brightness from the flashing would make a "laser beam" appear to get dimmer. The streak on this video does exactly the opposite, that's how you can be sure it's not a beam of any kind, but a CCD artifact instead.

First of all, I want to say Hello to everyone. Been reading on ATS for a few days and decided to join yeaterday.

I have been watching these videos as well, and I gotta say that this woman is...different. I honestly don't think she has manipulated the actual footage in any way. She is so convinced she is right, that she is now blinded to the obvious.

The laser thing? I would hazard a guess it could even be simple condensation on either the night vision lens, or the camera lens. I checked the video during the "laser" show and noticed the halo effect around the strobe light. I have done a little bit of backyard astronomy in the past, and condensation was always a problem on cool nights, causing stars to produce this same halo instead of being nice and sharp. At one point in the video she makes a point of saying she had to return to the car because it was cold. I'm wondering if she brought the camera from inside a warm car and as it cooled, got a wee bit of steam on the lens (anyone with glasses can relate). Not saying that this IS the case, just one of many possiblities.

As for the "smoke" she sees from the "laser" passing through the trees: The smoke is alot closer to the camera than that tree. Notice how quick it moves and the tufts of smoke are too large to be that far away. Looks like possible exhaust from her car drifting in front of the camera (she mentions that the noise heard on the video is her car running).

I wouldn't put alot of faith in those credentials of hers either. There is nothing listed that is verifiable. No companies worked for, no universities attended. It is all very general. This woman loves to "hear herself talk" or in this case, type. I have read most of her posts on youtube (and other sites she is posting on) and have noticed that she LOVES to tell people how much she knows and they don't and if they don't agree with her, they are immediately labeled idiots.

So to sum up:
The objects are most likely planes (and perhaps a Heli in the laser vid) and this woman is a loon.

Sorry to double post...but how the @#$@ do I edit my post???

I have tried the "edit" link and can make changes, but how do I make them stick??

God I feel stupid

Originally posted by Vienna1399
Sorry to double post...but how the @#$@ do I edit my post???

I have tried the "edit" link and can make changes, but how do I make them stick??

God I feel stupid

Welcome to ATS and compliments on a great first post! You've obviously researched the videographer more than I have so your input is welcome!

Regarding post editing, if you're having the same problem as I was, the secret is to ONLY use the "preview" function on "new" posts, and NEVER use the "preview" function on editing your posts because it will wipe out all your changes.

So just click "edit post" without clicking "preview post" first, and the edit will stick.

[edit on 22-10-2009 by Arbitrageur]