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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 07:16 PM by John Matrix
reply to post by Scarcer



Since fevers don't happen to us all that often, I don't see the risk of taking Tylenol. Acetaminophen is not addictive. Consult the CPS or USPDI for details.

Codeine however is adictive and some prescription Tylenol contains codeine.

Don't drink any alcohol when taking anything with acetaminophen as that will cause liver damage very quickly..

Agree that taking acetaminophen daily for many years will cause liver damage....that is why it should be used only when needed.

Advil green gel caps work great for migraines.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 07:29 PM by westcoast
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I think something that might also play into the severity of this disease and our reaction, is our over-all exposure. I have only taken antibiotics a few times. Only twice that I can remember in the past 10-15 years. I rarely ever take tylenol or advil because I have a sensitive stomach, so they are more affective when I take them.

My other extended family members that were worse off with this illness are on antibiotics all the time for various things, it seems. They were much sicker and then developed lung infections. This is just speculation on my part....but I really believe that the drugs we expose ourselves to do have an affect on how we handle infections later on.

I have never had a flu shot and never will. I believe (perhaps I am wrong) that for this reason, I have a stronger, natural immune system. My understanding is that any immunity you get from a vaccine is short-lived and wears off in about a year or two. (someone correct me if I am wrong) Whereas any immunity you create naturally lasts a lifetime.

Edit: I want to explain that I am not against all vaccinations. If H1N1 were truly a killer plague, I would be all over the vaccine, proven or not. I just do not see that the risk of the vaccine outweighs the risk of this virus, which is a basic medical concept with ALL medications.

[edit on 19-10-2009 by westcoast]


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 07:43 PM by John Matrix
Originally posted by westcoast
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post by John Matrix



I think something that might also play into the severity of this disease and our reaction, is our over-all exposure. I have only taken antibiotics a few times. Only twice that I can remember in the past 10-15 years. I rarely ever take tylenol or advil because I have a sensitive stomach, so they are more affective when I take them.

My other extended family members that were worse off with this illness are on antibiotics all the time for various things, it seems. They were much sicker and then developed lung infections. This is just speculation on my part....but I really believe that the drugs we expose ourselves to do have an affect on how we handle infections later on.

I have never had a flu shot and never will. I believe (perhaps I am wrong) that for this reason, I have a stronger, natural immune system. My understanding is that any immunity you get from a vaccine is short-lived and wears off in about a year or two. (someone correct me if I am wrong) Whereas any immunity you create naturally lasts a lifetime.

Edit: I want to explain that I am not against all vaccinations. If H1N1 were truly a killer plague, I would be all over the vaccine, proven or not. I just do not see that the risk of the vaccine outweighs the risk of this virus, which is a basic medical concept with ALL medications.

[edit on 19-10-2009 by westcoast]


I hear ya. I have never had a flu shot either. Those people that you mention who have been on and off antibiotics.....The first things I would aske them is what their diets consist of, what supplements if any do that take, and how often they wash their hands, door knobs, refrigerator door handle, kitchen surfaces, etc. etc.

I'm not saying you have to be a fanatic about germs, but some people just live like swine when there is no excuse for it.

Something else I notice from my own observations....a lot of people that I know who got cancer and died....got the cancer after going through a series of colds and flu's that hit them one after another over a period of a year or two. I am convinced that these illnesses weakend their immune system and allowed the cancer to start. They were not very health conscious people to begin with....which is why they went through one illness after another.

I buy mixed seeds with nuts, raisins, and dried fruit to ensure we get enough B17 in our diet as well.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 07:44 PM by westcoast
reply to post by amatrine



I can tell you from my own personal experience in the medical field that this flu season is not normal. I know some of the increased doc visits is due to the media hype, but it is a fact that there are many people sick right now with the same illness...the one I described and now have myself.



reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 07:51 PM by westcoast
reply to post by John Matrix



I agree with you. I started a detox diet about three months ago and it has changed my life. We don't realize how much toxins build up in our bodies and are harming us until it's gone and we feel GOOD, because we have gotten used to feeling crummy.

My extended family has a clean house, and they themselves are very clean, but they do not eat well. If your body is already taxed by the toxins it is retaining and your immune system is all mixed up from antibiotics and other meds, it can't do the job it's suposed to.

That being said, I know there are healthy people being hit hard by this, so there is always the exception. The key is to be educated and be on the lookout for signs of complications from the infection.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 08:23 PM by Windycity
reply to post by dreamseeker



One of our elementary schools has 25% out sick and nearly everyone I know has had the flu or the coughing cold going around. I'd say it is widespread in certain areas.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 08:33 PM by ArmyMeds
Hello All..My first post with many years reading threads!

Thanks to all who contribute and share your thoughts!

I am an active duty health care worker..and through many years of dealing with the sick and injured, I thought I have seen it all...That stopped about two weeks ago, when I went home early with a fever and body aches. I thought this illness, like most others, would run its course over an extended weekend, but I was terribly wrong.

After four days of fever, chills, sweats, body and headaches nothing seemed to be running a normal course. This illness was unlike any other I have personally experienced. Normally, I get the works. I usually get sinusitus, upper respiratory, and ear infections when i get sick (once a year). But with this, I only had fever, body and headaches. Tuesday morning I reported for work and was immediatley sent home. I developed a nasty cough the previous night and didnt think twice about it.

That night and into the next morning, it got worse, much worse....I couldnt even lay flat on my back without the feeling of coughing up a lung or two.

The next day I saw a provider and he recommended a chest x ray..the film revealed cloudiness in my upper left lobe ( very unusaual) and the radiologist confirmed PNEUMONIA..I am relatively young, dont smoke, and am incredibly healthy...How did I get this?

I recieved the seasonal intranasal vaccine 3 weeks ago. I was never tested for the Flu or H1N1..but with my experience and knowledge i pretty much now what was wrong with me..

H1N1 complicates everything and anything Pulmonary...so If you do develop any flu like symptoms please carefully monitor your situation and if breathing or coughing ensues...please get it checked...not to worry all.

I am currently on day 6 of antibiotic therapy and a follow up x ray shows things are clearing up..breathing is becoming easier daily...i hope this helps anyone with questions regarding the flu..

take care all and be safe!

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