Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Well if you are advocating for common sense and as you yourself admitt this is probably not the most honest or sensible approach then...???

I'm sorry, but I have read that 5 times now and it still makes no sense to me, elaborate please?

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
It would seem you are advocating for not using common sense in urging people to accept this dishonest and disengenuous practice.

I never urged people to accept this, you keep reading things in my posts that simply aren't there.
I never said this was a good thing. I'm just saying that the sudden outrage seems very contrived & sudden.

As long as you have a media ruled by private interests & market economics and as long as politics are ruled by those same forces, this sort of thing will happen.



[edit on 19-10-2009 by MrVertigo]

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Notice, people, the word "CONTROL" is the only word in quotes in the headline. This is a CLEAR sign that a quote is being taken out of context and being used to make news where there is none.
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If you want the truth, you'll do the work. If you want to simply bash the administration, you'll take the OP at face value without looking further. Your choice.

Wow, and the Obama administration apologists never cease to amaze me...

And your inability to understand basic market messaging strategies and the terms used within it completely baffles me...

Everything she said is textbook marketing. If you don't control the message, and by that token the media, then you suck as a public affairs professional PERIOD.

I think this topic has already been covered. You might want to look on the home page to verify this.

Originally posted by Rhetoric
I can't get over the OUTRAGE!
I mean, the Bush administration never manipulated the media, right?

WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news to y'all, but media manipulation is nothing new to this country.

It's only the outrage from the right that's new.

The question to you is, are you OK with having state controlled media in the U.S. - whichever side does it?

Some of us here would rather neither side used state controlled media.

Originally posted by dbates
I'm know this might shock you, but I think I actually agree with you on this one.

Doesn't shock me a bit. I agree with you sometimes, too. Thanks for the article. From there:

But whenever possible, he is routing around the filters and gatekeepers so that he can speak directly to voters.

It is a classic disintermediation approach.

The campaign events, speeches and clips are targeted to reach the voting public and bypass media framing.

I wish more presidents did this! I wish they took control of what got to the public instead of giving it to the MSM to massage and put their spin on. I think it's a great way to get the message to the people without the intermediary of the biased MSM, which we all know we cannot trust.

So, upon further investigation of the CONTEXT of the OP, I agree with her and the Obama campaign completely!

Breaking news? Someone's getting desperate for news! This is 10 months old!

I just realized that if Obama is reported on by the media, it's said to be "biased and untrustworthy"... But if he speaks directly to the public, without the influence of the biased MSM, he's "controlling the media". I guess some people would only be happy if he completely shut his mouth and did nothing at all. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

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It should be a simple and accepted fact by now that Obama, his administration and all the liberals are forcing their agenda through control and manipulation. They are liars and shoving things down our throats and laughing as we swallow their crap. Now, I'm not saying that this is anything different than any previous administration...but...it is not "change" and it is not becoming of "the savior Obama". It is typical, political domination through repeated assaults upon anyone, any group and any organization who voices opposition.

The message is simple..."shut up and let us run the country. You are stupid and powerless sheep." Please remember...we ALWAYS NEED OPPOSING VIEWS! It keeps us free and them (more) honest.

Wanted to add this for all that (due to tunnel vision?) only want to trash Fox News ...

It's ALL state controlled media - something we all grew up thinking only happened under dictatorships.

New Barack Channel (NBC)
Another Barack Channel (ABC)
Main Stream New Barack Channel (MSNBC)

and of course the old standby ...

Communist News Network (CNN)

Originally posted by sos37
This should be evidence to anyone that there is, in fact, a "liberal media" in place to put spin on events and news in favor of the current administration.

This should be a red flag to everyone out there that what you're hearing about Health Care reform, illegal immigration, global warming, hell, ANYTHING, is what they want you to hear!

Still in denial? You need to pull your head out.

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You need to pull your head out and accept that this is not about the "current administration". This has been going on for decades.

Why do you think you're never told about the oil companies being sued by thousands of people for massive destruction of land and environment? Why are you never told about the thousands of people in various countries poisoned by a major drink brands factories? Why are you never told about the medical companies making billions of $ through immoral practices?

I'll tell you why...

Because your media is owned and operated by the wealthiest people in the world, just as your government (Dem. or Rep.). They'll tell you what they want you to know and nothing else.

These are the same people who own the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, and all the other central Banks around the world.

It's really not hard to work out. Find the wealthiest people on Earth, and there you have the culprits of the greatest crimes committed against humanity. There you have the people controlling everything you hear, see, eat, drink...

I'm not talking about a NWO, I'm talking about basic greed and lust for power. This doesn't need to be spread over centuries, it's happening now and these people are in such positions through birth, they're simply continuing the greed, control and corruption for their own desires.

Originally posted by Erasurehead
There is one rogue media outlet that they are trying to get under control. Fox News.

Oh dear. You actually believe Fox News isn't a powerhouse propaganda outlet for the powermonger elite. Their primary way of conquering us is by diving us into 2 camps. The more polarized we are the better for them, and they use the media in particular to do it.

Fox News will not play their game and the Obama administration is on the offensive to try to bring them down.

Never before in my life have I ever heard of the federal government trying to silence a news station that is critical of them.

What about during the Bush years? Werent you around. Dick Cheney for one threatened terrorist attacks and world war if the media wouldnt stop reporting about all the civil liberty abuses they were perpetrating, etc. And the FBI was spying on reporters critical of the admin, they even publicly apologized for some of the cases that were over the top.

Now the coin has flipped and who's turn it is to attack has flipped with who defends. The polarizing propaganda is off the rictor, as it will always increase the closer we get to total totalitarianism. Bush did all his nasties and now we've all forgetton about that laundy list as the Dem's are now in there implementing their side of it.

Rush Limbaugh says everytime I listen about the State Controlled Media. He's right, but it didnt begin under Obama. For all of the valid criticisms you'll hear from the Right talk shows etc, about the only thing Obama has changed or done differently than Bush would have is the health care thing, and more green rhetoric.

I listen to the right wing talkshow people quite often and they are right about the left, just like the left was right about Bush. Everyone -on a side- is about half right, and have abysmally wrong. And as I expected, it was the right I'd have to turn to to keep up on the latest dirt and truths on Obama, just as I was 'allied' with the left during the last Bush years. Now the left are just as insane as those Bush worshippers ever were.