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Dozens of Westerners attending terror camps

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posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:05 AM
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Dozens of Westerners attending terror camps


www.msnbc.msn.com

Midway through a propaganda video released last month by a group calling itself the German Taliban, a surprise guest made an appearance: a cleanshaven, muscular gunman sporting the alias Abu Ibrahim the American.

The video contained a stream of threats against Germany if it did not withdraw its troops from the NATO-led mission in Afghanistan.

a rising number of Western recruits — including Americans — are traveling to Afghanistan and Pakistan to attend paramilitary training camps.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:05 AM
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Gentlemen, it seems we are witnessing the 2nd generation of the war on terror now with the Obama administration.

Doesn't this very much coincide with the DHS saying many americans are also potential terroists or people joining militia groups?

The article suggests that some are american white caucasians.
At least i'm guessing because it states that some have converted to Islam, meaning they weren't muslim to begin with.

This is definately the beggining of the second generation on the hoax called "War On Terror".

www.msnbc.msn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:07 AM
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I remember hearing (or reading?) about the Uk soldiers who battled the Taliban in Afghanistan and when they overheard the voices on certain radios they detected Manchester and Bradford accents.

Traitorous fools.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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More rubbish being spoken by msnbc. We had 8 years of this rubbish under bush with fox, now msnbc, with obama.

People generally just want to live there lifes, and these rubbish stories are bogus rubbish.

The government would love you to believe that males with skin heads etc are all sort of things.

Stop already with believing this rubbish and you would think people like come down my leg matthews for obama, would be able to think, and tell his people at msnbc that these stories are bull.

What percentage of people in america and around the world do you reckon will believe this rubbish and start labeling nobodies with these things even more.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:15 AM
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It's not rubbish. This has been known about for years. UK soldiers are talking about this.

Unless of course they are lying.

www.nydailynews.com...

www.nydailynews.com...

Unless all journalists are lying.

How does an Afghan native know what a Bradford accent? ..... Unless of course they are from Bradford.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033
What percentage of people in america and around the world do you reckon will believe this rubbish and start labeling nobodies with these things even more.


If the media keeps saying something over and over again long enough, it has a nasty tendency to be perceived as truth.

I mean look at everything else the people are believing.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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How many people live in the west. 60 million in uk, and 300 million in usa. What percentage of these people are in them. You claimed 1, with a bradford accent. Yep that proves it doesnt it, lol.

They just make up this rubbish so we are even more watched by nosey neighbours, and scum work officials, who want to spot any one who stands out, so they can be watched for life.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:21 AM
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These are highly suspect reports and what they point to is the Intelligence Agencies actually using their own operatives to pose as radical elements to broaden the scope of the War on Terror to basically any type of person regardless of their religious, ancestral, citizenship and national history.

The government would have us believe this is all about Western Judean/Christian philosophy versus Eastern Islam.

It’s not it’s all about establishing a totalitarian police state where everyone is suspect of being against the state and everyone is treated like a criminal suspect and no one has any rights or privileges guaranteed to them in the name of a false security that the Totalitarian Police State wants to instill in the populace.

We need to just end the war in Afghanistan, pull completely out of Iraq and stop funding Israel and what ever resentment the Eastern/Islamic world might truly have against us in the United States will fade in time once we stop wars of aggression and lopsided foreign policy.

Making Americans suspicious of everyone and everything through these propaganda ploys must end.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by andy1033
What percentage of people in america and around the world do you reckon will believe this rubbish and start labeling nobodies with these things even more.


If the media keeps saying something over and over again long enough, it has a nasty tendency to be perceived as truth.

I mean look at everything else the people are believing.


Yep, people always think of that saying there is no smoke without fire, which is rubbish. People just make it all up in society and mob rule, means everyone just believes it as everyone seems to want to believe what everyone thinks.

In mob rule, does anyone ever say to the mob its wrong what they are doing, no, they all go along with it.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:24 AM
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But just because lies exist doesn NOT mean everything is a lie.

It doesn't take much to realise that a UK citizen with Pakisatni relatives may go back to Pakistan to further their ideals.

www.dailymail.co.uk...


The discovery indicates that a growing number of British-born Muslim are turning their backs on the West and moving to Afghanistan to be trained as fighters.

It has been reported that RAF radio operators were able to hear the young fighters speaking in clear Bradford and West Bromwich accents.


What about the Taliban who was killed and when the soldiers searched his body they found an ASTON VILLA tattoo on him?

Or are you claiming that the Taliban tattood him after he'd died?

www.express.co.uk...


A TALIBAN rebel killed in Afghanistan was wearing an Aston Villa football club tattoo, it was claimed yesterday, raising fears British Muslims are being recruited to fight our troops.


www.independent.co.uk...



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033
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How many people live in the west. 60 million in uk, and 300 million in usa. What percentage of these people are in them. You claimed 1, with a bradford accent. Yep that proves it doesnt it, lol.


I didn't claim one. I said 'voices' ... As in more than one.

It would be naive to believe that some Muslims in western countries would not go back to their old country to fight. That's all i'm saying.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
But just because lies exist doesn NOT mean everything is a lie.


Of course not
but the article states that many have converted to Islam

which means they weren't muslim to begin with.
This is the main focal point of the article

But if it's true I don't think it's mainly about religion as much as it is about being against foreign occupation.



posted on Oct, 19 2009 @ 10:29 AM
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Some will have been converted, some will have already been muslim.

Richard Reid for example was a converted muslim.



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