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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 02:35 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
reply to post by ugie1028

They're going to flame you as some disinfo agent here to make false claims. "Anyone can say anything". They do have a point, honestly. But I'm not with them. There's got to be at least a few of them that hate me dearly. Last year I started threads (Board Business & Questions) arguing that it needs to be put in Skunk Works after ATS made a new policy that all reptilian topics must end up there. It was turned down obviously, no matter how bad its disproven. The 9/11 forum came under scrutiny over the blitzkreig tactics of the No Planers that hold to this day. What a circus it has all been.

I never read any of the Reptilian threads, but I can imagine the madness in absolutely believing in something that you have to fabricate evidence in order to 'prove' the existence of something that all odds are against. The difference between the 2 concepts is Reptilian videos are entertainment pieces while No Plane COINTELPRO disinfo destroys a truth movement. BUT I cant imagine that reptilian people 'assault' the site in orchestrated groups with all that tenacity.

Originally posted by zaiger
Free Masonry - Reptilian agenda


Exactly. Years ago Freemasonry and the global power elite were of particular interest to me. Eventually I seen a History Channel 'documentary' on Freemasonry and the "NWO". The first half actually had real and relevent information, and then all the sudden there was David Icke and they started showing drawings of reptilians and it got so bad I had to shut it off. Clear and obvious smear piece that linked to idea of a NWO with that of belief in purely speculative 'reptilian' aliens. And now we have No Planes.

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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 04:13 AM by CaptainAmerica2012
NPT theory was created by debunkers and the people who cover up 911.

Agent provocateurs they are sometimes called. The attempt to lead the opposition or smear the truth movement with ridiculous theories.


This video has a real 911 protesters being harassed by NO PLANERS. Check it out.

Here is the scum again.



These are the same people who started the space beams, missile pods, fueltanker and ABL theories. They are not supported by the vicitims of 911 or by any truth group. These people are allowed to post here on ATS and when they do count on the thread getting many replies from resident debunkers here.

Its quite sick. If you research this more you will see that the cover up of 911 is a dirty world.

This guy speaks for the 911 movement. This guys is loved by debunkers because he a whack job who claims to be a truther and of course he is not.



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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 04:39 AM by Seiko
reply to post by ATH911



I don't see how the twin tower npt is the same s the pentagon npt. In a simplistic way of stating it, I have seen footage of planes hitting the twin towers, and no footage of a plane hitting the pentagon.

From all the research I as an amateur can do I can only conclude that a blur hit the pentagon.

These are two separate points.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 04:44 AM by ATH911
reply to post by Seiko


He wants us to believe planes really hit the WTC because he "saw it." Well lots of people claimed to have seen a plane hit the Pentagon, so by his logic, the Pentagon no-plane theory must be a hoax too.

Can you explain why he also says they were both silver planes when the second planes was not silver in the videos that you are relying on?


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 04:53 AM by Seiko
Originally posted by ATH911
reply to
post by Seiko


He wants us to believe planes really hit the WTC because he "saw it." Well lots of people claimed to have seen a plane hit the Pentagon, so by his logic, the Pentagon no-plane theory must be a hoax too.

Can you explain why he also says they were both silver planes when the second planes was not silver in the videos that you are relying on?


Well of course I can't explain his witness. I have no way to factually dispute perception. I can see videos on planes hitting the world trade center. These videos appear to me clear, and quite realistic. I can see no videos of a plane hitting the pentagon. I see only a "blur". I just want to point out that one does not equal the other.

Is there a thread here with a video expert offering evidence that the myriad of wtc films are all indeed false? Is there a site online that can show evidence that they are indeed fake, and not just a hypothetical alternative? If such a thing exists, please point me to it, and I will consider it.

If we can't even agree on a starting point we have little hope of reaching a conclusion.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 05:05 AM by ATH911
reply to post by Seiko


I'm just saying based on the OP's testimony and logic, second crash videos were faked because they show a United plane instead of his reported silver plane and a plane must have hit the Pentagon too because people there claimed to see one hit as the OP claimed to see planes hit the WTC.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 05:14 AM by Seiko
reply to post by ATH911



I understand your point on the two towers, and the op's relating to the silver plane when the videos show a multi-hued plane. I can't myself state with certainty that it was specifically ua flight 175. But it was a plane.

Stating that this theory relates to the pentagon theory of no plane, is where I don't follow.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 05:29 AM by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Check this out....this pretty much summarizes ATS 9/11 board.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 05:40 AM by jimbo2167
reply to post by ugie1028



What if the planes you saw were missiles designed to look like planes, would
that also be a hoax?


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