White House Escalates War at Fox News, page 2
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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 08:15 AM by Alchemst7
reply to post by spec_ops_wannabe




Personally if Fox News weren't here, what would we have to choose from exactly for our choice of propaganda?


Of all the Media out there to read, I choose ATS!!


There's plenty of propaganda and truth all in one....


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:30 AM by vor78
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry


Its not that hard to provide evidence of Fox's relative LACK of bias. Here's an example.

Now Pew tries to put an anti-Fox spin on their findings, but one look at the chart shows that Fox ran roughly the same percentage of positive, negative and neutral stories for both McCain and Obama last year.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:33 AM by wanderingwaldo
Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry


Its not that hard to provide evidence of Fox's relative LACK of bias. Here's an example.

Now Pew tries to put an anti-Fox spin on their findings, but one look at the chart shows that Fox ran roughly the same percentage of positive, negative and neutral stories for both McCain and Obama last year.



Yeah, and Colmes balanced out Hannity *SARCASM*. Number of stories does not equal good information.

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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:35 AM by vor78
reply to post by wanderingwaldo


Yes, but you're mistaking news commentary for news. Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc, are not actual news. They're opinion shows, no different than Lou Dobbs, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann or any other talking head on the cable networks at night.

I would NOT deny that these commentary shows are heavily biased. They are, but so are everyone else's.

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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:50 AM by zappafan1
reply to post by jimmyx

If facts are the definition of hatred, then so be it.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:50 AM by vor78
reply to post by Walkswithfish


Agreed.

On the other hand, attacking the media is never a wise thing to do. For one, look at how they treated the Bush administration after that group was so dismissive of media. Second, look at what Obama's whining is doing to Fox News' ratings. In both instances, the administration has ended up as the clear loser of the battle.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:55 AM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by SaturnFX


Please provide some evidendce to back up what you state, I watch both MSNBC,CNN,and Fox, and I have to tell you, you do not see anything about the people in Obamas white house on CNN and MSNBC, they choose not to run it or dont care.

On fox (while it may be politcal Motavited) there are tons of things being said about some of his advisors, C'mon man there Commies, some of them think Mao Tse Tung was the greatest thing since Sliced bread... Now time me if that doesnt irk you in the slighest, MAO he killed 60 million china men for gods sake, he made hitler look like a pansy.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 10:01 AM by zappafan1
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Originally posted by spec_ops_wannabe


Yay! I'm back from Army BCT at Fort Jackson, I thought I would open up with something political for my first topic in a while. Anyways, so does it really seem this unlikely that the Far Left is openly attacking private news corporations like this? Especially from such a high place like the White House staff. Personally if Fox News weren't here, what would we have to choose from exactly for our choice of propaganda? Of course keep in mind I personally prefer Fox over CNN, NBC, or ABC since they actually have been found to be less biased than the other ones and they are the news service in North America that causes the most controversies.

www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Really??? FOX have been found to be less biased??? REALLY??? Why don't you show me the supporting evidence, that does not come from Fox News, that shows that they are less biased than the other networks. That is one of the funniest things that I have heard in quite some time.


Yale university (not exactly a bastion of Conservatism) did an independent audit of one year of Fox, and found them to be the closest to being fair and balanced. Show me another news outlet that has so many people from both sides of an issue.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 10:04 AM by booblessed
I've only read a small amount of posts towards the start of the thread, mentioning that the White House is being rather petty and should focus on other things, and seemed like a quick attempt at another Obama bash.

To these people... Have you actually watched Fox 'News'? The innacuracies are startling and scary, the political bias is overwhelming, and has always been fantastic at twisting the truth in news reports or covering items of little importance something significant happens. Many of the other channels appear to have a much broader and more equal approach to reports.

Fox has always pedalled an extreme republican right-wing agenda, or at least for longer than many people have been alive. If a news channel has any agenda other than reporting news, then it is not news. A story. Fabrication.

While I appreciate the fact that many of the other channels appear to be 'praising Obama for everything', I think many people are mistaken into thiinking that a lack of significantly negative or neutral reports on him must mean that they are sucking up to him.

Fox news deserves this critique. They have a solid agenda, which is based on pure media warfare, and not news.

I honestly cannot be bothered right now digging up differences in certain stories, but I assure you that if you compare nearly any Fox news story with any one of the other networks, you will find Fox to be the most opinionated, politically motivated, manipulative, and report far less information.

Fox is very good at reporting opinionated stories disguised as news, while many other of the news networks are good at reporting actual events and often provide multiple points of view.

I think the White House is just and right in its critique of a political parties propaganda network.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 10:09 AM by Jamesy_boy
reply to post by spec_ops_wannabe


I always thought fox was a comedy news channel

i never thought you chaps across the pond took it seriously !


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 10:12 AM by vor78
reply to post by booblessed


I could change a few words in your post and it would be the EXACT same argument that many Republicans make against the other networks.

Its not so much that the White House is being 'petty', but that strategically, the White House is making a major mistake by attacking Fox News. As is almost always the case, if the powers that be brand something forbidden, the masses will flock to it to see what they're missing. Case in point: Glenn Beck. He's picked up half to three quarters of a million viewers since the White House has made him their whipping boy. They'd be much, much better off ignoring Fox and pretending as though it doesn't even exist than what they're doing.
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