Should Morbidly Obese Kids Be Taken from Their Parents?

reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd

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Then why is America more over weight than every other country? Are you meaning to tell me that we're the only place where this predisposition is found? If so elaborate on your thesis of how Americans can be so over weight (at about the rate of 61% of adults), when the rest of the worlds highest obesity rate only hites 50% of adults(this is only in Russia)? So clearly there is a trend in America that seems to be "spreading" to other countries. Sorry it's no disease, but be my guest thats the easiest way out.

[edit on 20-10-2009 by NoJoker13]

That is simply not true. If you want to go on a diet, simply buy less processed foods.

I have 3 kids (4 in about a week) with a single income and we eat stable and healthy meals on between $125-$175/month. If both parents work, you may not hit all the sales, but the key is moderation.

Buy the materials rather than the hyper-processed stick-in-the-oven lasagna. It's cheaper and much better for you. If you have time on Saturday to make tomato sauce for the week, do that.

Perhaps start your own garden. Because we live in a land of easy credit, which means consumption in a demanding infantile way to define us as people, and have been inundated with "let us do all the work for you" services and products doesn't mean that is our only options.

I suppose it's a tad late to suggest ingenuity and private enterprise.

reply to post by KrazyJethro

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I understand what you're saying. However, you did find your way to this website in a search for knowledge so it's only predictable that you would research all you can to further improve your health. Not everyone has that drive. You're in the minority.

Considering the amount of nutritional/health information in bookstores and on the net, how does one make a final choice as to what's the healthiest advice?

Even nutritionists and dietitians have a huge misunderstanding of biochemistry and nutrient biology. Who do you believe if you're venturing into the confusing world of nutrition science for the first time?

-Dev

Because of our Dietary Habits.



I neither sad that nor implied that. So, no, this can occur in any individual barring those of whom have genetic predispositions that would otherwise override the other.



It's been very well established through epidemiological data that the "western diet," or the westernization of other country's diets, is responsible for most of the diseases of civilization, including Obesity.

Wanna guess what the main difference is between the "western diet" and all others is?

-Dev

I would call a parent with a very morbidly obese child mentally unstable but not neglectful. You obviously aren't neglecting your kid if they are getting that much food. I have no problem with these kids getting taken from their parents.

Kids get taken away from being starved, why not if they are being fed to death.

It disgusts me how being obese is almost a norm now in America. Get your # together people.

reply to post by rollerboogie

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Obesity is NOT caused by overeating. It's not that simple. Fat cells are not dump trucks. Extra calories don't just get shoved into them.

-Dev

well i read alot of post and i wish i could get that cheap with food a month its cheaper ware i live to buy the prepackaged stuff then it is stuff to make something bu scratch

True, I think many of us are. However, objectively, are those who do not seek knowledge to improve their lives necessary to the future of the species?

It used to be that people with diabetes or other ailments (AIDS) died. These days we keep them alive in relative perpetuity, enabling them to reproduce and multiply the disease. While I would never suggest we devolve health care to allow them to die or anything associated with it, it does have parallels in many debates as to the root of some of our issues.



You could research how to research. Personally, I started with studying biology and botany (although I have a long way to go). Then you can easily parse through the abundance of garbage health info we have.



The best approach (not trying to teach you) to me would be to believe no one.

I agree that the American health industry has no more interest in you staying healthy than the banks have in you actually paying off your debt. It's perpetual industry.

That is a far more complex issue than how stupid many of the nutrition information out there these days is.

It's only cheaper if you completely disregard the nutritional information. Of course Top Ramen is cheap, but it's also practically nothing but starch, MSG, and sodium. Pretty much ok for young people to eat sometimes, but a disaster for most.

The more processed a food is, the worse it is for you. Also, you must not be looking too hard.

Trader Joes is awesome.

reply to post by KrazyJethro

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I can't disagree with you, Jethro. However, the percentage of the population that just won't/can't research this field is staggeringly high.

In any case, shouldn't we be able to trust the professionals that offer advice without worry so that we don't have to focus so much of our time on such an important, yet complicated subject?

-Dev

reply to post by NoJoker13

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The predisposition I'm speaking of is outlined in this recent abstract:

Nutritional programming of the metabolic syndrome



In other words: Maternal Malnutrition during fetal development may affect an the child's predisposition to Metabolic Syndrome.

-Dev