Jupiter's Moon Europa Has Enough Oxygen For Life, page 2
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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 11:50 PM by Mortimer452

ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS
EXCEPT EUROPA
ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE
USE THEM TOGETHER, USE THEM IN PEACE



Seriously, am I the first one on here to think of
this?

In regards to the OP -- I also read about this a day or two ago, what a great discovery! Makes sense with all that ice there would be at least some O2 in the atmosphere as well.

What's really intriguing is the idea of a liquid ocean underneath the ice, no reason to believe there wouldn't be basic or even complex lifeforms living there right now!

[edit on 10/18/2009 by Mortimer452]


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 01:43 AM by Jakes51
Very interesting find and thanks for sharing. I have always been interested in Jupiter's ice laden moon, Europa. Who knows what is under that ice and is waiting to be discovered? Just the thought of finding complex life on another celestial body is enticing enough, but an opportunity to prove it, is groundbreaking for mankind.

However, can we expect NASA to be forthright about their findings to the public? We know about their shady disposition regarding the Moon landings and Mars exploration. Still so many questions and no concrete answers from the agency tasked with space exploration and discover? Their candor has been questioned for sometime, and hopefully, with the mission to Europa, the tide changes, and a definitive answer is given to address our questions. However, I am skeptical about NASA and its integrity regarding life beyond planet Earth.

Any idea when a new mission is going to be launched to Europa and what technology has been green lighted for the undertaking? It would have to be a submersible of sorts and something efficient enough to drill through miles of ice. I am interested to find out what technologies are in the development stages for such a difficult undertaking. Below, is a cool video showing a simulation of underwater exploration on Europa.




This is getting to be an exciting time for space exploration! I can't wait to see what they find on that alien world. Hopefully, NASA spills the beans for once in their long and shady history.

[edit on 19-10-2009 by Jakes51]


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 04:02 AM by Southern Guardian
reply to post by Aquarius1



I just saw a documentary on Europa and the possibility of it containing an ocean... although I would not expect it to be "twice that of all the oceans and rivers on earth combined", Europe is about 22% that of Earth in size, so the claim would entail and ocean thickness of that towards the outer core of Europa.... so essentially it would be a water moon with no real surface... but then again considering its the outer core which is hot it would explaim why the conditions are suitable enough for the existence of liquid water.

Very interesting. We shall wait for when the Europeans send out one of their probes to do an analysis on Europa. It should be launched sometime in 2012 I think.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 05:01 AM by eyeswilldeceive
reply to post by Angel One


Angelone are you saying there is no way microbial life could exist on europa if all the ingredients are there,Jupiters magnetic field may be strong but i would bet if all elements are there microbial life would exist.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 05:04 AM by eyeswilldeceive
reply to post by 30_seconds



Oxygen is a by product of photosynthesis but i doubt any microbial photosynthetic microbes are there let alone plants if they are ocated under a thick ice sheet,what it most likely is,is oxygen producing bacteria


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 10:11 AM by qwiksilva
reply to post by Angel One



You are basing that on human survival laws. Maybe a human or anything else from our planet wont live there, but that doesnt mean nothing exists there.


Simple example the way you put it: Because we cant live underwater, that means that nothing can live underwater right?

What im saying is there could be life there that thrives off jupiters magnetic field but will die on our planet.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 10:26 AM by Nicolas Flamel
Hmm, some bacteria like uranium, quote: "Perhaps most fascinating are the feeding habits of the new organisms. They depend not on sunlight, but on radiation from uranium ores for their existence."

link:
www.scienceagogo.com...

The thin crust, deep oceans also creates thermal layers were energy and nutrients can be circulated:



I would take it one step further and say that all the brown "gunk" you see may be life, right in our faces.





reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 02:31 PM by Devino
reply to post by jra


Yeah, this got me thinking that maybe MRIs are now lethal.


Magnetic fields are not lethal to humans nor are all radiating energies, some types of radiation is deadly to most types of life yet Europa's icy surface would protect what's under it very well. Far better then Earth's atmosphere anyway and life seems to fair well against the Sun's radiation.

Furthermore the gravity from Jupiter is not the only factor at work here warming the moon. Astronomers seem to forget about the fact that Jupiter is emitting much more energy that it receives from the Sun. In other words, Jupiter emits a lot of energy in the form of EM waves some of which can warm the moons orbiting the planet. Science is slowly catching up to reality.
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