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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:42 AM by jimmyx

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:44 AM by lpowell0627

Doesn't anyone realize that this could also benefit Iran?

Don't you find it odd that minutes after the attck, Iran announces it to the world and instantly, without citing cause, blames the US?

Doesn't it strike anyone as convenient that normally it is hours and hours, sometimes days, before Iran issues an official death toll and/or incident report? This came out very quickly IMO. And to blame the US -- with no mention of Israeli involvement -- means one of two things: Either Iran has concrete proof it was the US (highly unlikely) or this entire thing was used as a political tool to cast the US in a negative light once again.

Attacking Iran in this manner seems more befitting to Bush than Obama, no? I would that Obama would send cookies and thank you notes to Iran before bombing them.

I'm certainly not ruling out a US/Israel connection -- but I think to omit the possibility that Iran could also benefit from this is premature.

Iran is trying to re-engage with the rest of the world. They are also trying to get clearance from the UN for continuing their nuclear program. What better way to get support for a nuclear program than by showing the rest of the world -- "see....we're the ones under attack, not the other way around."

Like I said, I'm still on the fence. I think what happens next will surely make it evident who really is behind this.

Edit to add: Also, keep in mind that after the election in Iran there were reports of some of the Revolutionary Guards flipping support. There was the question of a possible breaking of rank. I wonder if the guards that were killed were at all involved in that?

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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:45 AM by Harlequin

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:48 AM by Laurauk

reply to post by lpowell0627

You are like me nowadays, when it comes to Iran. Before, I was one to say to myself omg, they are going to cause WW 3, while being fed all the propaganda. Now No, they are just looking out for thier own citizens, country, while being threatened from all sides.

Will be interesing to see at the end of the day, whom Iran is going to blame. No doubt Britain will be at the top of thier list!

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:50 AM by mrmonsoon

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
this was a little too co-ordinated for some group of mountain squablers.

if this wasnt an israeli attack, it was an american backed sunni group who has been training in Iraq.

dont ask me for proof, its common bloody sense to see this for what it is.

What will be interesting is if the ayatollah makes a statement, this is a critical event to occur to Irans military aspect, if he doesnt speak, he is indeed in a coma.

has it begun?

No evidence required????? Well, this makes more sense

It was the Iranian government that was doing some house cleaning and then try to blame others in a Iranian false-flag operation.

Also used to garner support, as the Iranian government is losing it's iron grip on their population.

Now they blame US/Israel and they can all rally round the religious dictator.

Seems painfully obvious to me.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:51 AM by lpowell0627

Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by lpowell0627

Will be interesing to see at the end of the day, whom Iran is going to blame. No doubt Britain will be at the top of thier list!

That's exactly what I find so interesting -- no mention of any other country than the US. Usually, when they start throwing blame around, they encompass all of the "evil countries from the west" before actually narrowing it down.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:51 AM by Gools

Originally posted by feldercarb
This being a conspiracy board, what about the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadi Nejad? If the supreme leader is dead or in a coma, and the Iranian president is worried about being saddled with an authority that will not back his moves; then the Iranian president may be making a bid to tighten his grip on the republican guard.

Interesting angle.

Too bad we only have the word of Michael Ledeen to support the coma rumours. (Who is Michael Ledeen?)

If Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is in a coma and there is a leadership struggle then this could be related somehow.

Something to think about.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:51 AM by psychederic

reply to post by LadySkadi

I am sure Goebels would have like twitter : Allways speak with slogan, no reflexion - 120 character : Arbeit macht frei,

Stupidity kills : but not fast enough. WHen you cannot think don't think at all.

I don't know why people like twitter ( or facebook ) : what is the point ? Nothing... But i kbow how they ve done this with the sheep. You just have to treat them as sheep : and that works great.

And to the other people in this forum who maybe don't understand what is going to happen :
Don't think with ideology, you are not your country, ( and i am not ).

THe first thing to do before critisize others ( like iran ,... ) is to really watch yourself deep inside. The problem are not far from you, and problem are in every societis.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:54 AM by lpowell0627

This was the information I was referring to when I mentioned that there were revolutionary guards possibly breaking rank:

According to the Cyrus News Agency, Tuesday morning 16 senior members of Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps were arrested. "These commanders have been in contact with members of the Iranian army to join the people's movement," CNA reports. "Three of the commanders are veterans of Iran-Iraq war. They have been moved to an undisclosed location in East Tehran." This report has not been confirmed by other sources. If true, it shows that the regime is losing the loyalty of some members of its control appartus, which is necessary if the opposition has any chance of achieving fundamental change. Mass rallies can easily be broken up and revolutions crushed, as we saw at Tiananmen Square in 1989. But if members of the armed forces, police and especially Revolutionary Guards decided to switch sides, then one can begin speaking of revolution.
Link: www.washingtontimes.com...

Edit to add: The article is from June 15, 2009.

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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:02 AM by mrmonsoon

Originally posted by lpowell0627
This was the information I was referring to when I mentioned that there were revolutionary guards possibly breaking rank:

According to the Cyrus News Agency, Tuesday morning 16 senior members of Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps were arrested. "These commanders have been in contact with members of the Iranian army to join the people's movement," CNA reports. "Three of the commanders are veterans of Iran-Iraq war. They have been moved to an undisclosed location in East Tehran." This report has not been confirmed by other sources. If true, it shows that the regime is losing the loyalty of some members of its control appartus, which is necessary if the opposition has any chance of achieving fundamental change. Mass rallies can easily be broken up and revolutions crushed, as we saw at Tiananmen Square in 1989. But if members of the armed forces, police and especially Revolutionary Guards decided to switch sides, then one can begin speaking of revolution.
Link: www.washingtontimes.com...

Edit to add: The article is from June 15, 2009.

[edit on 18-10-2009 by lpowell0627]

This is exactly what I was talking about.

It seems to me that we have proof of Iran doing some house cleaning.

All we are missing is the official blame of US/Israel by Iran's National spin machine, PressTV.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:06 AM by Gools

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
All we are missing is the official blame of US/Israel by Iran's National spin machine, PressTV.

Ummm... you seem to have skipped most of this thread.

We don't need PressTV we have the BBC and ABC News.

see here
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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:12 AM by TheCoffinman

the leader of jundallah, abdulmalik rigi, has stated several times that his group is funded by the united states. the iranians know this. perhaps something is about to go down in iran. as in a us/israeli airstrike??

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:19 AM by Heronumber0

reply to post by SLAYER69

Looks as if the war has already begun... I wondered who financed the Sunni fighters? Moreover, look for a lot more stories in the Press on how the leaders of Iran:
a) eat babies in Satanic ceremonies,
b) rape young women, including little girls,
c) have killed the babies of pregnant females in sheer rage,
d) have executed boys as young as 6, for not praying regularly,
e) have destroyed their opposition by drowning, poison gas or napalm bombs...

The war has to prepare people mentally before it the carpet bombing campaigns and then the entry of ground forces, to tear away the 'nuclear' weapons that Iran is apparently accumulating. If you are on ATS and you believe the nonsense propagated by our media then you are propagating ignorance, not denying it.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:22 AM by deltaboy

reply to post by SLAYER69

So much for the "Elite" Revolutionary Guards that gets killed by somebody that ain't elite.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:24 AM by LadySkadi

reply to post by psychederic

Only reason it was mentioned is because of the direct msgs coming from the people in Iran...

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:26 AM by john124

reply to post by SLAYER69

This could be linked to an internal power struggle between the mullahs because of Khamenei's comatose state, or his death.

Either way though, the regime are blaming the UK & UK:

Iran Vows Revenge On US And UK After Attack

Iran has warned it will take revenge against the US and Britain, accusing them of being involved in a suicide bombing targeting the elite Revolutionary Guards.

Six senior Revolutionary Guard commanders and dozens of civilians were killed in the attack.

The headquarters of the armed forces blamed the bombing on "terrorists" backed by "the Great Satan America and its ally Britain", the semi-official Fars News Agency reported.

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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:27 AM by JIMC5499

reply to post by feldercarb

First intelligent thing I've heard yet. If the US was involved, we'll all know in a few days when some Congresscritter blabs to the press about it. I wish that the US had the capabilities to pull off 1/10th of the stuff that it keeps getting blamed for. If we did, Iran would not have a nuclear weapons program.

Let Iran build it's bomb. If they don't use it, fine. If they do, blast them off the map. If they want to play in the big leagues, fine, but they play by the rules and take the penalties. My money says they use it..

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:29 AM by mrmonsoon

Originally posted by Gools

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
All we are missing is the official blame of US/Israel by Iran's National spin machine, PressTV.

Ummm... you seem to have skipped most of this thread.

We don't need PressTV we have the BBC and ABC News.

see here
.

[edit on 18 Oct 09 by Gools]

No, you are mistaken.

I said all we need "FROM IRAN" is their national spin, PressTV, which has been proven time and again on ATS to print Lies and Hoax's.

Now, if, which is, of course, not true, it was the US and or Isreal, then Iran better shut up fast.

If they can off their military officials like that, they can do anything their.

As I have said so many times before to the ignorant, if everything bad that happens in the world really is the US/Isreal, then you best shut up as they can do anything.

Don't feed the PressTV fantasy.

Nothing to see here, move along-

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:33 AM by Selahobed

Hence the reason I chose that avatar lol

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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:34 AM by john124

These kinds of attacks are probably linked to Khamenei dying or in a coma, and a power struggle between different factions of the revolutionary is taking place.