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Originally posted by jpmail
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you want proof of children being forced to beleive theres plenty out there look at any religion and kids are taken to church from day one they are brought up in that religion and not given a choice if they want to go or not.
Personally I think no child should be exposed to religion until they are old enough to understand what it is but mostly by that time its to late.
How about killing people who leave a certian religion plenty of cases of that happening all over the world right now.
Rebutal 3 answer
So metally I think of harming another I turn that into action but that mental thought had no bearing on my action?. is the intolorance not a mental action?
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Its both no real point in arguing there and how can our opionions be biased if they are formed by proof?
Rebutal 5 answer
If someone is expression an opionion to me about there religion is fine by me just don't expect me to agree in fear of going to hell.
Rebutal 6 answer
I agree there no need to limit the negativity to religion but seeing as the vast majority of people on the planet as religious its stupid to ignore it, no I dont understand your views no one really could unless they shared them. Only you can decide if your creator exsists or not as with all belief structures no amount of proof that shows you are wrong would be accepted by you as you already have a belief
I don't get it that you talk about peoples perception then show your own in the whole we live through him part of the last rebuttal.
The title of your thread makes it out as if religious hate mongering is bad. If a religion any of them is killing people because they don't beleive then hate mongering is perfectly justifiable.
Should we stand aside and just say ohh its there religion to kill, torture and abuse so there perspective on life is different from ours lets just leave them be?
Thats like saying "that guys perception on life is to beat his wife so lets leave him to it" if we where bashing wife beaters all the time would you post a thread saying "wife beating hate-mongering"
Personaly I think people should be able to beleive what they like but as soon as they try to force it on other human beings there should be war.
Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
Well, being exposed and being indoctrinated are two entirely different things from my perspective. Simply taking them is opening their eyes to new and different things. It's not forcing them into submission. I agree that there needs to be atleast an age limit set because young children are so fragile and easily molded. As for the killings, when taken in relation to all other matters that can and do cause death, religion is but a small "catalyst", if you even want to call it that.
Originally posted by Lister87
Ah, but taking a child to one religions place of worship a week at that age will pretty much bang it into there heads like it or not.
It's not like you are going to take your child to a Mosque, a Church, a Buddhist Temple etc etc once every week so they have a choice..
Even then the child will most likely choose the one with the 'coolest ***' something or other..
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Is it wrong for an athiest who lives a good life and harms no others to be told he will go to hell for his disbelief?
What about the atheist who doesn't believe in Allah yet has to confront the angry muslims who wish to behead those who don't wish to be converted?
What about the atheist who has to watch muslims and christians fight over their peices of paper every god damn day just to prove something to themselves and who has the better religion ner ner ner ner...
Sod religion i say.... sod it all with big sodding bells on.