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Topic started on 16-10-2009 @ 05:38 PM by Eye On War
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Hey guys, I just uploaded *snip* because IF TRUE, it seems that Obama is poised to sign away the sovereignty of the U.S, and make it nothing more than
a state in a One World Government.
Here's the video description:
On October 14th 2009, Lord Christopher Monckton, a noted climate change expert, gave a presentation at Bethel College in St. Paul, MN in which he
issued a dire warning regarding the United Nations Climate Change Treaty which is scheduled to be signed in Copenhagen in December 2009.
Mod Edit:
Removed link to off site account
[edit on 17/10/09 by DontTreadOnMe]
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 05:51 PM by LifENcircleS
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I may be missing something but How exactly does a climate treaty between countries constitute a a one world government? What I got, and I may be
missing something as I said, out of this is that they are setting up a government to govern the environment and enforce the rules of this governing.
This hardly means that we are going to be taking down our flags and putting up a new one or be throwing out out constitution. As I said I may be wrong
and if I am please inform me, I am willing to listen to reason. Maybe put up a link to the treaty documents or some bullet points from it that proves
this statement. Thank you in advance.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 05:59 PM by jerico65
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:03 PM by sharps
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This definitely deserves further research but I can't find any kind of PDF for this document. Can any ATS slueths help out? We really need to read
this document.
S&F first flag I've given all week, thanks OP
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:05 PM by sharps
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there's been much talk lately of carbon credits/tax and making this into an actual tradeable currency. Perhaps that's how it may go down.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:06 PM by JayinAR
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Surely you are taking a page from the Colbert Report with your sarcastic devil's advocacy.
If you are not, I apologize for the offensive adjective.
They are "setting up a government to govern governance. World wide."
Surely though, you understand that.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:08 PM by JayinAR
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Now, on point, these are the reasons why Obama was given the Nobel.
He is set to subjugate the US to the UN... Totally.
I have been saying this from the get-go. The Nobel Prize being awarded to Obama was a "thanks" if you will, from the elite who are satisfied that he
is going to dissolve American Soveriegnty.
Sure, it won't present itself like I have just stated it initially... It will be a slow process, but the legal groundwork will be in place. It will
happen just the same.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:11 PM by Whine Flu
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I dunno if you guys are feeling it, but I feel like this guy's trying to advertise here. I could be wrong, but just thought I'd put it out there.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:21 PM by antar
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That was profound and accurate to what is headed our way. The only problem is that there are no links to find the information for ourselves and read
the treaties ourselves.
CO2 carbon tax from US going to 3rd world countries?
The death of democracy and voting rights?
Giving away our sovereignty to a one world government?
Dissolution of greenpeace/ Takeover complete?
I hope the man is stretching this one because if he is right TimeWave has nailed December...
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:34 PM by LifENcircleS
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I guess I just don't see how it implies anything more than a "one world government" of the environment that's all. I am definatly not playing
devil advocate! I don't want to see that any more than anyone else here. Maybe I was a little smart buttish and I apologize
I will defineatly follow this close...as I type I am searching for more info...
LifENcircleS
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:45 PM by JayinAR
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Okay. Then like I said, I apologize for the ill word. I'll edit it as soon as I'm done typing this post.
The point here is that American Soveriegnty will be given to the UN.
Do you realize what "world governance" over climate matters entails?
Water runoff regultations...
Meaning, how you can build, when you can build and where you can build... Just for an example.
Sure, we like to think that this won't be as devious as I just made it sound, but like I said, the groundwork is laid out and in the end, the UN has
more power over the entire world... or at least, the parts of the world that sign the treaty.
The parts that don't will be bombed and exploited for their resources.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:51 PM by sharps
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The point isn't that US sovereignty will be signed over. The point is that possibly all countries signing the treaty will have this done to them.
Having such a singular US centric view helps no one.
I've just DLed loads of pdfs from a couple of UN sites about this. I doubt there will anything of use but i will go through the 200+ pages over the
weekend and report back if i find anything.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:54 PM by JayinAR
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Oh well no doubt. If you are living in a Country that is set to sign this treaty, the same applies.
I am responding to my specific circumstance, being a citizen of the United States of America.
If you are a concerned Frenchman, for example, you should be souding off as well, if the French plan on signing this treaty. (I don't know if they
even are set to do so... I'm concerned for the US.)
Sorry if that offends you.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:56 PM by JayinAR
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To reiterate, in the OP it was stated that this is a concern because *Obama* was set to sign this treaty.
I'm not too savvy on other countries set to do the same or not.
But I hope you can see why I leaned my comments the way I did.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:58 PM by Kaytagg
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:59 PM by sharps
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Takes a lot more than that to offend me
I just think not taking the world view is a little irresponsible and plays into TPTBs hands. They want us to think nationally and care not for the
rest of the world, while at the same time forcing us into global situations. NWO 101.
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 07:00 PM by dashar
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 07:02 PM by sharps
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A lord, who used to be an advisor to the worst prime minister the UK has ever had. Surely that has to give him some small measure of cedibility no?
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 07:06 PM by praxis
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Originally posted by JayinAR
Now, on point, these are the reasons why Obama was given the Nobel.
He is set to subjugate the US to the UN... Totally.
I have been saying this from the get-go. The Nobel Prize being awarded to Obama was a "thanks" if you will, from the elite who are satisfied that he
is going to dissolve American Sovereignty.
If this is true -- we really need to military to step forward and do a hard reset of our political system. By that, I mean they need to remove 99%
of our politicians and judges and ban these people from further political activity.
Then they need to set up new elections for politicians that will follow the Constitution. My God, I sure don't want to live under the thumb of the
freakin' UN.......
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 07:07 PM by sharps
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Stirling work If I could flag you i would thanks dashar. I'll be reading this in the morning its late here and my head is spinning after all the
(snip) I read on ATS today.
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