reply to post by EMPIRE
Empire,
What I’m talking about has nothing to do with guilt conditioning. If it were guilt conditioning, and as successful as you’re implying,
things would be a lot different for blacks and whites.
I must be imagining something here. So too must the other readers.
Guilt conditioning.....here..right along with the time warp technique.
Right out of the news media, body politic, and public education standards.
What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions
and here...showing textbook standard M1A racism so popular today.
and I’m talking to every single white male in this thread who has proven me right time and time again
Empire...what astonishes me more is your admission that guilt conditioning is not that successful. Yet here you are going on and on with the same
tack..the same technique. You must think it successful and the moral and ethical high ground. Perfectly justified! Astonishing.
No one is moving people back into a time warp
let us see here..as I quote your previous post...I will post it twice here in case you missed it the first time.
What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions
Did you catch it ..the time warp technique?? I am sure the other readers out here caught it and will see it now in the posts of others as well as
yours. You are going to need some practice to keep pulling this one off on the readers here.
Watch this closely Empire. This is not difficult to shoot holes in but even most of the so called "White Privileged" people out here are so dumb
about this and history they even don't know the secret to shooting holes in your pitch here. Here as I quote you again....
However, to assume there is an equal playing field when the present proves otherwise is pure folly. Moreover, you talk about the work,
moneys, and risks of others yet turn a blind eye to the fact that the white race, as a whole, are the main ones who benefited from the work, blood and
deaths of others (and I’m not just talking chattel slavery or the past.)
This is one of the dumbest statements I have heard in a long time. However most peoples would attribute this to race as do you. It is a product of
public education grooming and conditioning..ie programming. Also an absence of any historical perspective past time warp techniques.
"White Race and White Privilege" That is all you have in your guilt conditioning technique. That is it ..in toto.
Anyone thinking outside the box would know that before 1519AD...the Privileged White Race lived as poorly as any other race in this world. A few
people...royalty and priesthoods... lived well off the labor of the many. A few people had a little the rest had almost nothing.
Most "White" people had only one set of clothes. What they had on. No need for a closet, nothing to put in there. Most people were never to travel
more than twenty miles from home in their lifetimes. This was the status of the fabled "White" Race...throughout the world. Not much different from
any other race.
It was only after 1519AD that an index can be seen which was to produce change in this world and it was some 200 years later before observers were to
see and write on this change among "White men." Furthermore it did not happen among all "White" men.
For you see Empire....whatever was to change the "White" man was not his race for he always had his race. Change came because of something else..not
race. For history records not all "White" men were subject to this change and progress.
This change and progress took place in Northern Germany, the Lowland Countries and in England. It was later exported from England to what was to
become the United States.
And yet we see here an example of someone who has only race issues to bait people and get them to show their "White Privilege" When history shows
something clearly outside of race causing this.
When you as readers come to know this history you will be able to shoot holes in anyone trying this time warp technique on you or anyone else. It
makes all and any such guilt techniques useless.
Wise up people. For you will never be taught this history in public schools or even in the media while they try to make you feel guilty by RACISM.
So far in the thread, the guys complaining about being called racists are actually the ones calling me a racist. When people make claims I
ask them to prove it. I’m now asking you to post a sufficient definition of racism and show how what I’ve typed is indeed racist. Yes it is
unfounded, yes it is highly unintelligent, yes I have to deal with it, but it doesn’t hurt me because it proves what I’m saying about you and
others. You aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawers, you can’t present a cogent argument if your life depended on it, and you’ll rely on every
trick and fallacy in the book to get your point across, especially you, Mr. SHAKEDOWN. You think I don’t know what you’re trying to imprint in the
minds of the readers when repeatedly use the “shakedown” term in caps? LOL!
This is a political answer and not keen itself. It is not designed to hurt you as what you are trying to describe. It is designed for the other
readers who might read my posts. Sorry you would think it was designed to hurt you. I think that is your ego speaking here not your ability to be
cogent.
I don't have to prove this. You are doing a great job of it on your own merits and demerits. Readers of your posts will see this for
themselves...that all you have on your plate is race because you are a racist.
Oh..by the way..I am not interested in what 'Race" you are nor your sex.
I already told you politics in America is a farce.
This is one area or arena in which we can agree. So how do you explain your using this Racial, political, pubic education technique to somehow project
your position as the high moral and ethical ground over others...just as does a politician or social engineer paid for by the body politic?? What you
are doing here is farcical, clumsy, even absurd.
More proof you don’t read, more proof what I’ve said about you is true, please refer to my previous posts where I said to not
concentrate on one race alone, thanks. And to answer your question I may be a woman, I may not be, but you’re showing your ignorance in implying
that women are the only ones with that mentality.
Don't concentrate on race alone. OK...lets see here.
White privilege. White males??
Also not interested in what sex you are. See above statement.
Do you think I’m sacred about the replies I’m going to get? LOL! I posted it, I’m able to handle whatever comes my way and will answer
in the appropriate fashion. I already said many of you will use this thread to complain and star and flag each other,
Empire,
this is very pitiful of you to post such. It is your own way of starring and flagging yourself. Not useful in a thread like this...self promotion. I
am not interested in starring or flagging anyone here.
More lies and fallacies on your part. How am I motivated by what you say I’m motivated by?
Your motivation is obviously to belittle others for their beliefs and desires not to be SHAKENDOWN by you or others who are want to use guilt and
time warp techniques based on your obvious RACISM.
Your motivation is self promotion to SHAKEDOWN others on what you perceive as their RACISM...their GUILT. And then when they don't bite ...you go on
with your stereotyping and labeling. Just as does the body politic today.
So in other words I’m talking to a good ole boy. I bet you have your tobacco cup and rifle right next to your keyboard.
See what I mean by stereotyping? This is getting desperate now. It is also not cogent or intellectual. This is the same tack our now President used
when he was running for office. And they are still trying to use such stereotyping..particularly noticeable on our veterans. Oh..and this is also not
leadership. Particularly on this topic.
If it is your duty why are you not acting in accordance to it? Would you not want someone to listen to you if you feel as though you were
wronged? Would you not want someone to listen to you if you felt you were getting the short end of the stick?
I am not acting in accordance with your belief systems and assumptions. No thanks ..not interested. Also I do not expect people to listen to me if I
am excoriating them in the manner you are want to do. Somehow this seems to escape you while you expect to default through on the methods, thinking,
and expectations you do..on your entitlement beliefs.
Not smart, not intellectual, and down right uncivil. But it does illustrate an entitlement belief system in operation.
What is “American” to you is sin, death, rape, murder, robbery, lies and deceit to others, Save it good ole boy.
This has already been addressed under guilt conditioning, time warp techniques, and stereotyping.
These four guys mentioned white males before I did, so are they sexist as well? [bold emphasis added]
I am not addressing their posts. I am addressing yours for your obvious racism.
Thanks,
Orangetom
[edit on 20-10-2009 by orangetom1999]
