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Originally posted by EMPIRE
And I’m not even talking about reparations for slavery, what I’m talking about partly deals with whites taking responsibility in the form of LISTENING, something many of you are quite inadequate at, when people ask you to.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
You guys proved my first post to be 100% accurate. Like clockwork, friend...
I won't argue, we DON'T want to "listen" to you complain about the problems your ancestors had.
It's completely annoying, this is NOW. Not then.
All humans are equal in my eyes, regardless of skin color. I have never, nor would i ever own any slaves.
I AM a slave, like everybody else not in the top tier of society.
I have to go to a job i despise, every day, just to make enough money to pay the bills. I struggle the same as anybody else here, yet some people think that somehow i have to not only suffer the hardships of society now, i also have to shoulder blame for, apologize, and "listen" to others complain about attrocities in the distant past that i had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with? Wrong.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
What has led you to believe I'm black?
Originally posted by 27jd
Originally posted by EMPIRE
What has led you to believe I'm black?
Everything you've typed. I honestly hope you're black (and a woman after that "listening" bit). If not, i've wasted my time responding to a poser who feels so guilty and ashamed of his/her own skin, that he/she's taken up a cause against him/herself. That would just be sad.
[edit on 19-10-2009 by 27jd]
Originally posted by EMPIRE
If we were to apply your logic (if we can even call it that) those who supported Abolitionism were so ashamed of their own skin, that they took up cause against others of the same race (or themselves.)
What I’m talking about has nothing to do with guilt conditioning. If it were guilt conditioning, and as successful as you’re implying, things would be a lot different for blacks and whites.
What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions
and I’m talking to every single white male in this thread who has proven me right time and time again
No one is moving people back into a time warp
What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions
However, to assume there is an equal playing field when the present proves otherwise is pure folly. Moreover, you talk about the work, moneys, and risks of others yet turn a blind eye to the fact that the white race, as a whole, are the main ones who benefited from the work, blood and deaths of others (and I’m not just talking chattel slavery or the past.)
So far in the thread, the guys complaining about being called racists are actually the ones calling me a racist. When people make claims I ask them to prove it. I’m now asking you to post a sufficient definition of racism and show how what I’ve typed is indeed racist. Yes it is unfounded, yes it is highly unintelligent, yes I have to deal with it, but it doesn’t hurt me because it proves what I’m saying about you and others. You aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawers, you can’t present a cogent argument if your life depended on it, and you’ll rely on every trick and fallacy in the book to get your point across, especially you, Mr. SHAKEDOWN. You think I don’t know what you’re trying to imprint in the minds of the readers when repeatedly use the “shakedown” term in caps? LOL!
I already told you politics in America is a farce.
More proof you don’t read, more proof what I’ve said about you is true, please refer to my previous posts where I said to not concentrate on one race alone, thanks. And to answer your question I may be a woman, I may not be, but you’re showing your ignorance in implying that women are the only ones with that mentality.
Do you think I’m sacred about the replies I’m going to get? LOL! I posted it, I’m able to handle whatever comes my way and will answer in the appropriate fashion. I already said many of you will use this thread to complain and star and flag each other,
More lies and fallacies on your part. How am I motivated by what you say I’m motivated by?
So in other words I’m talking to a good ole boy. I bet you have your tobacco cup and rifle right next to your keyboard.
If it is your duty why are you not acting in accordance to it? Would you not want someone to listen to you if you feel as though you were wronged? Would you not want someone to listen to you if you felt you were getting the short end of the stick?
What is “American” to you is sin, death, rape, murder, robbery, lies and deceit to others, Save it good ole boy.
These four guys mentioned white males before I did, so are they sexist as well? [bold emphasis added]
Originally posted by Alxandro
I heard a black say one time that blacks can't be racists, had a straight face when he said it too.
Given that, it's possible some blacks may actually think that black on white crimes are not possible.
What is the name of that river in Egypt?
Originally posted by EMPIRE
What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions.