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not saying every person sold into slavery was done by their own kind but a lot were. btw i know of white people that were slaves in the south during those awful times.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by Djdoubt03
So every single African sold into slavery was done so by a tribesman? LOL! Someone needs a history lesson.
Originally posted by cenpuppie
reply to post by Edrick
Firefly is awesome have you seen the movie? I thought it was pretty good myself considering the cast (not million dollar actors).
I still can't fathom how slavery had anything to do with the entertainment industry, hollywood, etc.
Again, blacks are the ones benefitting from slavery now. At best, i get to look at more white people on TV.
Some would consider it as such, but not because it is a bad thing to do, but because people aren't willing to do what is required, which mainly has to do with White America listening to people when they say they are being treated unfairly.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
So if it is your opinion, state it is your opinion.
You don't honestly think that "White America" actually controls the policies of America, do you? You don't honestly think that "Americans" actually have anything to do with the policies of America, do you?
Is it the fault of "Americans" of any color that this is the case?
The Plutocracy which owns the Media, the Military Complex, and the International Bankers that are to blame.
Who do you think Profited from the Atlantic Triangle Slave Trade?
The average colonialist who had to compete with lower price Slave picked Cotton?No... it was the Slave traders, and the purchasers who benefited from this practice, not "White America" in general.
That is an absurd statement that belies an Ignorance of reality that harms my sense of humor.
You are implying that White people need to apologize for the actions of the Wealthy elite that *STILL OWN THIS ENTIRE NATION*
Placing blame on skin color is lazy... find the real culprits, they who DESERVE derision.
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Originally posted by 27jd[/i ]The more i see the opinions of racists like EMPIRE, the angrier i get.
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Originally posted by 27jd
How can you sit there, and honestly type that you feel people need to take responsibility for something for NO reason other than sharing the "whiteness" with SOME of the people who committed injustices over 200 years ago, and deny that you're racist?
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Originally posted by 27jd
Boo-hoo. I'm not deserving of the racist's time.
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Then i come here and read your racist garbage, pretending to have some moral highground.
Whatever you say, IMO you're a RACIST. You've proven that to me, beyond any doubt, I have no desire to go round and round with you debating semantics and definitions.
Now here is where part of the problem comes up and where we will disagree. If after slavery, white Americans had joined with black Americans things would be quit different.
If during segregation and the civil rights era, if the majority of White America had banded together with blacks things would be different.
Now fast forward to the 80’s and 90’s when blacks were constantly talked about being beaten by the police and brutality. It took a video to show it happens (regardless if the guy was high or not) yet many people still didn’t want to believe it.
These are examples of how white America has dropped the ball.
Black Americans do not have a direct link to those in power
However, the majority of whites have a connection with those in power due to the fact that they are white.
Directly? Several groups, mainly elite whites and so-called Jewish people (especially their hand in slavery in south America.) Indirectly? White America.
No, if there is any ignorance it is from the fact that people deny institutional deviance/racism and how white people benefit from it.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by Donny 4 million
Another one bites the dust. In an earlier post you made the claim that I'm "media friendly" yet you missed the parts where I said I didn't approve of what the media was doing and both sides should be shown.
Is your problem related to selective reading or your school system?
You then came with some far-fetched idea that we should automatically add the "unknown" figure to whites when the link clearly stated what the unknown factor meant.
Is your problem related to selective reading or your school system?
Now you're talking about Marxism, hypnotism, droids and all sorts of comical things one would find on this site. Then you cap it off by attempting to equate those who've experienced lobotomy to myself, and fail miserably at making it seem as if I don't have sympathy for the victims in the OP (when I already said I feel for them.)
Is your problem related to selective reading or your school system?
The EMPIRE would like to know.
[edit on 19-10-2009 by EMPIRE]
Do you have a point?
Do you have a point?
Now, fast forward to the 80's and 90's, when blacks were killing people 10 times more per capita than any other race. It takes a Beuraeu of Justice Report on Homicide by race to show it happening, yet many people still do not believe it.
www.ojp.usdoj.gov...
These are examples of how Black America has dropped the ball.
White Americans do not have a direct link to those in power.
You keep saying that White America benefited from slavery...
You don't know what you are saying.
The profits from slave labor was not given to White America, they had to compete AGAINST slaves for business.
The owners of the plantations did not give anything to white America... they kept it all for themselves.
How did white America benefit from slavery? A Concrete answer, please
Oh, and by the way... INDIRECTLY, Black America benefited from slavery.
Without slavery, there would be *NO* black America.
And unless you think that the war torn nations of Africa are better for raising a family than America... that is a benefit.
Explain HOW white people (In General) benefit from Slavery(Racism), and I will respond. Be specific.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by EMPIRE
I am reading your posts, so I am listening. I am just not seeing the things you claim are there. Perhaps a better explanation should be something you should attempt. Clearly I am not the only one not getting your message.
If you have links to this debate on history which you supposedly won, please do post them, as I can not find any in myATS page.Me and Cenpuppie had a pretty good discussion in a thread a while back, but I honestly wouldn't call it a debate.
Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by EMPIRE
Right, but it was before you started crying and posted those examples, knowingly leaving out the last one, in which i clarified that it was my opinion.
It was always my opinion, and not once did i specify otherwise.
Those posts were coming FROM me, and to me you're a racist, because that's the opinion i've formed of you.
I don't care if you like it, it's just the way it is. What you say offends me personally, about taking responsibility and all. It's f-ing ridiculous, and completely unreasonable.
You're stating we need to accept responsibility for the distant past, based on NOTHING other than the color of our skin.
That's not racist?
I readily agree that those who participated in the slave trade were scum, regardless what color they were. But for me to have to shoulder blame, when i had no part in it and stand firmly against it, is so beyond the pale of reason, it makes me angry.