Moslems now demand full Sharia Law (UK), page 5
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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 02:35 PM by A Fortiori
reply to post by Jimmy1880



I don't think the issue is the history behind the current legal system, or the "right or wrong" of any given legal system, but the absolute inequality that comes with separate judicial systems. This is something we in the US are intimately familiar with.

There need only be one law that serves everyone with equal justice beyond that is trouble--even with the best of intentions.


reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:38 PM by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by findlesticks
This really annoys me, what ever happened to BRITISH LAW, England is not a MUSLIM STATE and foreign laws should not apply.


The laws do not apply, they are asking for them to be applied. That is what democracy and free speech is all about, if they get enough support then Sharia law is instigated. However we have nothing to fear, it won't get anywhere.

Originally posted by findlesticks
If anyone doesn't like the laws here in the UK then WhyTF do they bother coming here or even stay here?


I suppose we're the lesser of two evils, live in dirt poverty somewhere else or live here and put up with a few things they don't like whilst trying to change it to something they prefer.

Originally posted by findlesticks
IF ANY RELIGIOUS GROUP DOES NOT LIKE OUR LAWS HERE IN THE UK WHY DON'T THEY F**K OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE THEN? NOBODY IS FORCING THEM TO STAY HERE?


Well for a start it takes money to relocate, many can't do that. Secondly once again, they are using their democratic right to get something done. Just like you or i have the right to say whatever we like and attempt too change the law. Happily this Sharia rubbish won't get anywhere.

Originally posted by findlesticks
I don't have problem with other people or cultures here in the UK, our soft namby pamby government are to blame for allowing this to build up in the first place.

We must have the weakest goverment rule on this planet, no other country would tolerate this, why are we????


So you have no problem with other cultures but you just insulted the people trying to get the laws changed and saying they should get out the country.........you see the contradication there.

Look this Sharia law is barbaric and the British people are, generally speaking not barbaric and will not support it's implementation. The MP's and lords know that if this were ever allowed then people would get angry enough to riot over it.

However we must allow these people their democratic right to request this. If we stop them asking for something then what right do we have to ever ask for anything?


reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 10:28 PM by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by EarthFallingApart



I understand what you are saying but the moment we start to choose between who is allowed to protest and ask for something then we open ourselves up to all sorts of censorship. People should be allowed to protest, they should be allowed to ask for things and i will support their right to do so.

You can support someones right to protest and pertition whilst not supporting what they believe in

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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 05:30 AM by useless eaters
reply to post by EarthFallingApart



"Seriously, some requests are justified and acceptable but this seem more of a demand, plus they don't seem to take no for an answer. "

I wish they would ask me. I think I can tell them "NO" in a language they would understand.

It may not happen on 10-31-09, But the push is on to force the Moslem religion on those who do not want it. Sorry, the argument that only a very small percent of Moslems take it to such an extreme. just doesn't hold true when you understand Force is the only logical thing to expect from an intolerant religion. incapable of assimilating it self into another religion or culture.

I know some will think this is just a biased reasoning because I don't like Moslems. That's incorrect. It's not the Moslem I object to, it's the force thing. it's the idea that I could be placed where I have no choice in the matter. That scares me, and that is what I see Moslem religion has in store for me.

I can tolerate any religion as long as I don't have to be a member of it.

For me, the value of the moslem religion is summed up in some of the clichés Moslem people seem to live by, "if it doesn't please Allah, it pleases no one". or how about, " if it doesn't serve Allah it has no value". You just can't get more intolerant than this no matter how hard you play it down and spin it around. I have no need of a religion sporting that kind of attitude. Therefore it’s value is “0”.


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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 08:47 AM by EarthFallingApart
reply to post by useless eaters



This is EXACTLY how I feel about it. While I don't live in the UK, I do however live in Quebec, Canada with a government that is still partially separatist. (For those who don't know Quebec wanted to separate from Canada, and almost did, what a joke .)

Because the french language is slowly fading they allow immigrants in and cater to their need as long as they learn French and go to French schools.

Meanwhile English people here, no matter what culture are not quite second class citizens but we're pretty dam close when it comes down to certain things.

And again i know it's but a small group, but they're very vocal and the government seems to act as if their arm was twisted behind their back. It really pisses me off.

Scary part is that their plan (as discussed in other threads) is to keep breeding until they have the majority to vote and then we're done. The day head scarfs are mandatory for our women is the day I lose it and it's not going to be pretty.

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