reply to post by budski
I've long held the belief that the "separation" of church and state is something of a myth in practise, despite that it sounds good in
I agree here ...separation of church and state and a myth in which most of the people in any given country haven't a clue..
The problem with politics and a politically financed public education is that politics itself is a religion. A religion in which the rules or non
rules are often undefined to the public. This would make politics and a politically financed public education to be "Occult" in nature. Occult
having origins in religion..a pagan religion. Understand now budski??
Also here stateside....many churches have tax numbers under a 501c corporate tax exempt status. The members of a church can take their tithing off on
their taxes. This is a tax subsidy...a price support on the part of the government. This is not separation of church and state.
Not only that..but the clergy do not teach this to their flocks. The Churches here are also willingly in bed with the government. No separation here
For real separation there should be no price support by tax write offs for church by government. They should be separate. I know of only a handful of
churches which do not give chits to their members for taxes nor do they have tax numbers under 501c corporate status.
I've also long held the belief that islam is far from the only religion that claims an "eye for an eye" or that the punishment should fit
Remember what I said earlier above. Politics/government is a religion and occult/hidden/concealed in nature.
Are you occult..hidden and concealed budski?? Are you advocating that the punishment should not fit the crime by statements like this one??
Many seem to be implying that the Bible here is akin to the Jerry Springer show. ( a popular emotional/drama show here stateside and now replaced with
more drama/emotional shows)
Yet I detect that those not interested in the Bible being used...conducting themselves in drama just like the Jerry Springer show and whatever came
after to replace this program. And all this under the guise of logic and reason.
By the way..budski...you do know ...do you not..that many of the occult pagan nations with their religions were big on logic and reason...yes??
The problems in the world today are not caused by religious writings, they are caused by people who interpret writings to suit their own
Yes I tend to agree with this statement quoted of yours above. This is precisely how our law makers and courts here stateside tend to interpret for
their own ends. What religion are they practicing budski???
This is also why it has become so important as to who is approved for our Supreme Court and Appellate court positions for life. So that they can
interpret law according to their own ends or the ends of an occult religion called politics...and call this logic and reason. What religion did you
say this was budski???
Here by IntastellaBurst,
They might as well be consulting a coloring book, gutless, ignorant, cowards.
... in a post apocalyptic world, I hope people like this are still around, ..... to replace beef.
I call this human intelligence...logic and reason budski. What do you call it. I also call it the Jerry Springer show mentality. It most certainly is
More intelligence, logic, and reason. Or is it drama queens come to fruition while attempting to pass as logic and reason??
if all this religion stuff is real, most these people that pull this crap are going straight to hell the way i see it. so many
misinterpreting, so many people using "holy" words for their own purposes. makes me sick.
The idea is a jury ...a jury of ones peers. What many are saying here is that unless there is a jury of drama queens of the same logic and reason
there is not a jury of ones peers. Are they not?? That somehow people who believe in the Bible should not voice their opinion..jury or not.
Notice the nonsensical...statement or tack being done here..." most these people that pull this crap are going straight to hell the way i see
Interesting method of using religion to argue against religion. Once you see it done ..it does not make good nonsense does it Budski??
This is intelligence, logic and reason?? A private interpretation?? A private nonsense??
Is this for ones own purposes budski?? Think do not emote here.
I call this technique ...drama queens budski. It is a product of public education today. By public education budski...I mean a television/movie
I agree with thisguyrighthere in what they post
Besides, you might be able to keep the text itself out of a jurors hands but good luck trying to keep it out of a jurors mind.
Now here is someone using logic and reason. What is the problem with so many others here budski??
Jurors are supposed to consider only the evidence and the law.
While jurors are entitled to whatever beliefs they choose in their PERSONAL LIVES, they are NOT entitled to bring those beliefs ( WHATEVER they may
be) into the jury room.
This verdict should be set aside and a mistrial declared!
And WHY are there Bibles with HIGHLIGHTED passages in the jury room anyway? Good Lord!
LOL LOL LOL. another one. Notice the use of Good Lord on the end. About 30 miles north west of me is the law library at Colonial Williamsburg. John
Marshall law library. When one reads olde cases of law...the Bible is much quoted in law cases. A concept very much avoided today in lieu of emotional
chaos/drama so carefully cultivated in order to spread the confusion we see about us today.
Jurors have the ability when sitting in a jury to use whatever knowledge they have including the evidence of the law. It is known that many lawyers
are great actors and drama queens in their presentations. Jurors should know this as well. They also have the ability to ask for the written
instructions at law for the jury as well as the judge. To see and know at law if the judge is giving them false information's in order to steer the
case to a preconceived result without the jury being aware of it.
Otherwise why would one need a jury??
So they looked to the Bible for moral guidance.
If I have to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God, then I see no problems with jurors seeking guidance from him.
I'm sure if the guy had been found not guilty then the defense wouldn't be complaining that they read a few passages out of the Bible.
Precisely ..well said. This article quoted is pushing an agenda. A humanistic agenda. Most people do not realize that humanism is a religion.
That religion pushes the concept that humans and human reason are the ultimate reality in the universe. I don't think so by the train wreck of so
much going on around us today.
That's the whole point - a persons belief system should have no bearing on a trial and the persons guilt or innocence.
This looks good initially and by logic and reason. What most peoples do not know is that judges and lawyers both will take advantage of a persons
ignorance about many things...including the law. When there is a system which will do this...it is called occult...and we are back to religion again
budski. If people are not able to express their beliefs or only beliefs you or others think are correct....then you only have a rubber stamp jury and
the political body is now the law. Got it yet..budski?? And the political body pays for and finances public education to turn out such nonsensical
logic and reason trying to pass for the moral ethical high ground.
If so ..then why have juries at all??
An individuals belief system is precisely the reason for a jury ...not hack political appointees. You should know this budski.
I could go on and on quoting many of the posters on here..but this will suffice.
Amazing what some would have us to become here in the states.
Someone out here wants us to become just like Englishmen today. Mostly atheist and non believers raised on a steady diet of television/movies and
public education..stamped out copies of whatever changing winds are popular today. That very thing is what caused many of the "great civilizations"
to fall from within.