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Woman Faces 15 Years for Cutting Line at Walmart, KKK Involved

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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 12:34 PM
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Interesting. Was this thread about an 'incident' found in a prop piece from a pseudo-black supremist website or a silly attempt to judge and condemn the membership here when they/we express opinions contrary to yours where 'the black americans' are concerned?

In my opinion you need to turn the rap videos off a while and stop idolizing and embracing the victim mentality so prevalent in this particular culture.




posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
reply to post by ninthaxis
 


Second of all, you don't know a crap about what it's like to be black in America.


Oh, so you know what it's like to be a race other than black in America?

Oh, so you know what it's like to be black (or any other race) in a country other than America?

I think not. What leads you to believe that blacks in America have it sooooo bad? Even if true, why do you believe other races are at fault for blacks having it soooooo bad in America?

I feel no pity for anyone because of their race, especially blacks.



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by jd140
Will you please, for the love of god, stop playing a victim?

You post an article from a racist website and back it up by showing a news analyst giving her comments.

It wasn't covered as news.

By the way, CNN doing that Black in America segments was garbage.

Then you post "you don't know crap about being black in america".

Whaa Whaa Whaa.

Since you feel ATS doesn't care for black people you are more then welcomed to log off and never return. Your ignorance will not be missed.


Playing the victim? Before it was "playing the black card", now it's "playing the victim"?? Just because google gave me the link to a website that you decided you don't like for whatever reason, you're just going to make any old claim that "it wasn't covered as news".

I mean, in that case, there's alot of things that are not covered as news. People get zapped out of their bedroom windows nightly and get open and then zipped back up by aliens, and I don't see that covered as news. People claiming to be the "Federal Investigators" or even the "Federal Police" come and grab folks and they disappear. I don't see that covered on the news. That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Since you want to accept ignorance and then try to back it up, I say that you are welcomed to log off and never return.

How's that, buddy?



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Clark Savage Jr.
reply to post by MegaCurious
 


Interesting. Was this thread about an 'incident' found in a prop piece from a pseudo-black supremist website or a silly attempt to judge and condemn the membership here when they/we express opinions contrary to yours where 'the black americans' are concerned?

In my opinion you need to turn the rap videos off a while and stop idolizing and embracing the victim mentality so prevalent in this particular culture.


First of all, I can't remember the last time I listened to any rap. Must have been from the radio of a car driving by outside. Police brutality and lies isn't a "victim mentality", it is a crime.

And, no, I don't frequent that site, but when someone gives you their side of the story, and you write it off as a "pseudo-black supremist website", while you fail to question the "pseudo-jewish supremist" agenda spewed from your idiot box (bomb, bomb, bomb Iran) no matter what channel you watch, then I must wonder what affects your thinking.



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
And, no, I don't frequent that site, but when someone gives you their side of the story, and you write it off as a "pseudo-black supremist website", while you fail to question the "pseudo-jewish supremist" agenda spewed from your idiot box (bomb, bomb, bomb Iran) no matter what channel you watch, then I must wonder what affects your thinking.


I will admit
that's a VERY valid point!



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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The fact remains: There are rules in society so people as different as you and me can get along on the street!

Once you go into wild-animal mode you have given up your right to be treated like a lady.

This isnt about "cutting in line" it's about common decency. None for me? None for you! Back of the line!

Minorities are the most dedicated racists in this country. That's a fact.



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
reply to post by MegaCurious
 


Equal and fair is fine. Developing a race issue out of thin air makes it millitant.


The KKK threatened physical harm to this black family via a card that said " This was a social visit... The next one will not be social"

If this is not a race issue than My name is not Scott... and my name IS Scott....

If a black person standing up against injustices that were trespassed upon this is "Militant" then you must really hate people such as Martin Luther King JR. You know how militant those peaceful protests were....

They were about as militant as a black woman fighting for her rights as an American citizen..... In other words... Militant is not a word that should be used to describe this woman or the people defending her... Do you know why? Because this is reality... That's why....



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:45 PM
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I do agree with you, it's not easy being black in America, there's a liquor store every 2 blocks in the ghetto, CIA dumps drugs into the streets in the ghetto, gentrification, men treating women like nothing, women treating themselves like just flesh with no soul, white-skinned shareholders pushing gangsta rap music but the audience thinks all black people are like this.


If a person wanted to instigate some confusion on this site all they have to do is mention racism with an association to black people and the anger begins every time.

MY WORD, people stop with the stereotyping good grief. For the record all black people don't act a plum fool out in public, a small number of an entire populace do and the rest of the people are expected to shoulder the burden of those few? Illogical. The article is about a woman being accused I didn't see any facts just accusations.

I don't know what black people you surround yourself with but I can tell you if the US was overrun with situations like you described this country would've perished long ago. No country can sustain itself with an entire population of "bitter self destructive people running amok", totally illogical and a stereotype.


People are getting all riled over a story missing so many pertinent details no one can accurately say what happened because Walmart/ and or the prosecution will not release the tape, the only part they told with assurance the person arrested was a black female. I personally think the prosecution is bluffing about the tape proving anything which is why its never been shown but be that as it may this woman is facing time for something cops have accused her of doing.

Folks you can check threads on this site about cops (and yes even the prosecution) being liars so you can't take their word for what did or didn't happen there must be evidence. So as it stand no one really knows what happened that fateful day three years ago.


[edit on 16-10-2009 by Chai_An]



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:45 PM
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LOL@ some of the claims being made in this thread. I've never heard of blackvoice until today, and if anyone refers to it as "pseudo-black supremist website", or believes for one second that it involves black supremacy they need to seek professional help. Did any of you click the AOL button on the black voices screen? Did any of you google black voices + AOL to see that AOL owns it? So what you're saying is AOL owns a web site devoted to black supremacy? LOL! The claims and beliefs some of you have are strange indeed.

Moving on to the woman in question, Walmart and the KKK, I don't think the picture of those KKK members should have been used if they were not present or had nothing to do with the allegations being made. I also see that many of you who say to "uphold the constitution" or who constantly scream about the bill of rights have said nothing about this womans due process which may have already been compromised.



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:45 PM
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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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Wow, I can't believe the responses I have heard from this thread.

My first thought about the tapes was it probably shows NOTHING...that is why nobody has seen it yet. I could be wrong, but that is just the feeling I get.

I think that they are scared thinking that she is going to sue not only walmart, but the police dept as well. ( and why not, everybody sues nowadays right?)

I didn't even think about the race issue until I read what the KKK card said on it. Did i read right that the Police gave her the card from the KKK?

I know that if my mom and I have been shopping and gets in line first, I usually ask the person behind if its alright if I get in line with my mom, and I've never had a problem.(I guess having MANNERS works sometimes...).

I wasn't there, didn't see it, but I think its ridiculous how some people on here can just bash an OP for putting some information on here for us to read.(it happens on other threads as well)

This thread has turned into a bashing of some sort, and not really talking about the issue at hand. Which to me is Why aren't they showing the tape? Why a sentence of up to 15 years, for what cussing (if there was any), or cutting in line.



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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tired of racism in any topic out there.

it is all a tool and a manipulation.

i'm a 30something white guy.

i AM the NEW (n-word)

and being just that, i call for all black people to just chill out.

i love every race just fine. we are in different times now.

the ONLY people who perpetuate racial tension are the gov't, its media AND the people who go for their BS.

end it.

i think we should think of more ways to get together than to be separate.

especially right NOW.

you're welcome.

S

(edited- i misspelled perpetuate- duh)

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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by EMPIRE
So what you're saying is AOL owns a web site devoted to black supremacy?


This site is not owned by AOL. Blackvoices is an AOL black news site, whereas bvblackspin.com (the site in question) is a blog hosted on blackvoices site. It is its own seperate entity. Just because a blog is affiliated with a site that is affiliated with AOL, does not mean AOL endorses its view points. Did you take a look at some of the other news that this Dr. Boyce Watkins comments on? What does this have to do with black news? I didn't realize pointing out how a white father committed incest has anything to do with the content of the site, unless its sole purpose is not to be pro-black, but to incite racism against white people.



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
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First of all, I also included a link to a video on CNN.

Second of all, you don't know a crap about what it's like to be black in America.


So I guess that means you don't know what it's like being white in America....what it's like to be called a racist when you aren't, what it's like to have to watch your words (not out of racism, but out of fear of being accused of being one), and what it's like to be blamed for something that isn't at all your fault, such as a 1% case of actual full-on displays of racism. Just because one idiot is racist (and white) doesn't mean that the entire white community is out to get you, anymore than one black man being involved in a crime means that all black people steal. Grow up, you make it seem as though you and every other black person in the U.S. lives under constant fear of white oppression...and if you do, then that's no ones fault but your own, if you are always going to play the victim, you're always going to feel like one. Until the black community confronts that problem, blacks will not be equal to whites (in wealth, education, etc)...not because of racism or not being "equal" as humans; but because they can't pick themselves up when no one is even holding them down. Even Bill Cosby agrees with that, but you can't say "real" # to the black community and be white...or you'll be called a racist, luckily people like Mr. Cosby exist within the community.

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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Looking at the bigger picture, and what this scenario typifies, is the Racial Disparities of Incarceration rates here in the US.

At the Human Rights Watch website there's an article pertaining to this sad statistic. You can call it whatever you'd like, but the statistics don't lie.

Excerpt:

Among the findings:

* Blacks and Hispanics make up 62 percent of the incarcerated population, though comprising only 25 percent of the national population;
* Between ten and fifteen percent of black men are incarcerated in twelve states (Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming);
* Black women are incarcerated at rates between ten and thirty-five times greater than the rates of white women in fifteen states (Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming); and
* Hispanic youth are incarcerated at rates seven to seventeen times greater than those of whites in Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire, while the incarceration rate for black youth is between twelve and twenty-five times greater than those of whites in Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Massachusetts, Montana, and New Jersey.

Essentially what this means, as in this scenario. If you do wrong, and you are non white, you are prosecuted to the "fullest" extent of the law and have a high probability of going to jail.
Granted this individual "cut" in line but this situation exemplifies the staggering statistic of racial bias of so called justice in the US.

I am not purposefully throwing the "Race Card" for the benefit of any one particular racial group of people.

Unfortunately, Like statistics apply to Native Americans as well, who only represent approximately 2-3% of the US population.

www.hrw.org...



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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Yes, you said escorted.
And who was doing the escorting?
I hate pulling nails!



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by jdmjam
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Both times I was in the states, this sort of "rudeness" happened almost everywhere I went, I just thought it was normal.... that was both on the west and east coasts btw, in cinemas, fast food places, shops etc..

Although had the same situation (i.e shouting, cursing etc) happened in a major city here in the UK, she would have been escorted out of the store and told never to come back.
.....the police wouldnt have showed up because they are too understaffed unfortunatley.... and that would have been that.





As a matter of fact, police don't respond to "cutting in line and cursing" here in the U.S. either. I've worked for a major retail store for over 5 years and never once seen the cops come because of something like that. A store is private property, and it's up to the retailer to boot them out. If it becomes hostile, that's another story. There has to be more to this story than what that article is telling us.

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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by ninthaxis



This site is not owned by AOL. Blackvoices is an AOL black news site, whereas bvblackspin.com (the site in question) is a blog hosted on blackvoices site.


The OP gave a link to black voices, not bvblackspin.com (I had firewall issues that took me to the main site and not the blog section.) Moreover, someone made the claim that the site in question was "a pseudo-black supremist website" (their exact words spelling and all) and made no mention of it being a pseudo black sumpremacist blog so thanks for clearing it up for the person who made the claim.


It is its own seperate entity.


See above.


Just because a blog is affiliated with a site that is affiliated with AOL, does not mean AOL endorses its view points.


No one implied this was the case, so I suggest you read my question again. Better yet, read some of the claims that were previously made and hopefully you'll comprehend why the question was asked.


Did you take a look at some of the other news that this Dr. Boyce Watkins comments on? What does this have to do with black news?


Did you take it upon yourself to research or google the names of the children in the article? To answer your question, it has a lot to do with black news because the children who were raped/molested are black. But of course you knew that already right? Riiiiiight....which is why you asked the question. I know you were just testing, huh? FAIL.


I didn't realize pointing out how a white father committed incest has anything to do with the content of the site, unless its sole purpose is not to be pro-black, but to incite racism against white people.


See above, sport. BTW, his picture was the only thing that gave his race/ethnicity away. Nothing else in the article hinted at it and nothing in the article stirred the debate about interracial adoption/parenting, nothing. Wishful thinking and double fail on your part, sport.

EDITED to reflect the following post.

[edit on 16-10-2009 by EMPIRE]



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by EMPIRE
The OP gave a link to black voices, not bvblackspin.com.


May want to go have another look at the link in the OP.


Woman Faces 15 Years for Cutting Line at Walmart, KKK Involved

www.bvblackspin.com



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna

Originally posted by EMPIRE
The OP gave a link to black voices, not bvblackspin.com.


May want to go have another look at the link in the OP.


Woman Faces 15 Years for Cutting Line at Walmart, KKK Involved

www.bvblackspin.com


I get the other site. Could be a browser or issue with how my firewall is configured. Whatever the case may be everything else I stated still stands.

EDIT: It was a firewall issue, and if anyone is concerned ATS staff can probably tell you how many times within the last five minutes I clicked on the link. Anyway thanks for pointing it out.

[edit on 16-10-2009 by EMPIRE]



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