reply to post by majestictwo
do you know the Hawaii island chain? they erode over time and everybody knows this.
do you really believe you are doing anyone a favor posting such obvious PR?
First off - Give'em Hell Dermo. I am with ya all the way! OP, I am in the middle of the country. I have a big boat. If you believe the crap that Gore puts out. I've got some Ocean front property for sale. Of course it will only take another couple of years to get we

So what can we expect in the next few years? Both sides have very different forecasts. The Met Office says that warming is set to resume quickly and strongly. It predicts that from 2010 to 2015 at least half the years will be hotter than the current hottest year on record (1998). Sceptics disagree. They insist it is unlikely that temperatures will reach the dizzy heights of 1998 until 2030 at the earliest. It is possible, they say, that because of ocean and solar cycles a period of global cooling is more likely. One thing is for sure. It seems the debate about what is causing global warming is far from over. Indeed some would say it is hotting up.
Yea, sorry for snapping at you
Its annoying when you can see the amount of profiteering and agenda pushing in the middle of the noble cause of stopping pollution AND then on top of that have to listen to the amount of people going on and on and on and on and on and on and on about "Global Warming".
It makes it hard to take any of this stuff seriously.
You should have known better than to bring this up on a conspiracy site!
I do realise what ATS is about - what's the problem?
Bringing up anything about climate change here is a good way to get bashed around.
Gore's scientific data isnt a lie, its just not representative of the long term historical meteorological data. In actual fact, we just do not have that kind of historical data, to prove the global warmng theory, or, to disprove it. The only reliable way to do it, is to compile all proffesional observational data, which is real time observations. But like I said we just dont have enough of it to confirm or deny global warming or climate change
Only in America.
This page shows a selection of the locations where we have documented glacier and ice cap retreat -- a small set of images illustrating the overwhelming evidence from hundreds of glaciers and ice caps on every continent that global warming is severely affecting the water and glacial cycles of the planet. This is a profound change that unlike natural cycles like the Little Ice Age of the 16th and 17th centuries is proceeding very rapidly and appears tied to no natural cycles.
Geophysicist Tom Osterkamp indicates ground level when he installed this temperature probe pipe near Denali Park, 15 years ago. Alaska permafrost temperature has increased 0.5° to 1.5° C since 1980, when Osterkamp began measuring ground temperature at 30 sites.
Good point OP!