It's Too Late : Only 10-years before open sea in the Arctic, page 1
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 04:39 AM by space cadet
reply to post by Chadwickus



Nice response. Rising water will come from melting permafrost. Along with the rising water causing flooded areas we need to be concerned about the effect of all that extra water on subduction zones, the pressure can cause catastrophic earthquakes. Al Gore might be making money off global warming but the facts show it IS happening.

edit to add: There was a news story just Thursday though about the North Pole melting. See link: news.nationalgeographic.com...

[edit on 16-10-2009 by space cadet]


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 05:35 AM by endisnighe
reply to post by OzWeatherman



Thanks OZ, appreciate the info. I loved what a comedian came up with the other day. Gore, I have had a hard time believing a prophet about climate problems making such a huge profit on his prophecies.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 05:42 AM by majestictwo
reply to post by Chadwickus



Thanks Chadwickus I have edited the typo in the title - there's no up or down in space


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 05:51 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by majestictwo



Cool mate, I came into the thread thinking huh, how did they swim through the antarctic??

Anyway, here's an interesting vid tracing the Arctic ice from 1979 through to 2007:




And another:



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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 05:54 AM by Dermo
reply to post by majestictwo



The majority of this is nonsense.

Ridiculous sensationalized alarmism that pushes a political agenda of globalized cooperation, trade of a new product (carbon credits & taxes) and the conversion of developed countries to green energies because of a coming shortage of resources in order to push profit, environmentalism and globalization.

There are no rising temperatures.. Even the BBC have recently done a show on this.
There are no rising sea levels..we should be under water now if the models were correct.
The Ice is shifting from the North to the South because of an orbital wobble.
The Climate has been changing for billions of years.

We need to stop polluting and we are (In the EU anyway).. but don't fall for the fearmongering.

[edit on 16/10/09 by Dermo]


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 05:58 AM by endisnighe
reply to post by Chadwickus



Exactly who produced this "video"? Give me about 20 minutes and with my CS4 I can produce a video that shows the earth is covered in ice.

That is not a video, it is a computer simulation. WOW.

Deny Ignorance.



reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:01 AM by majestictwo
reply to post by Dynamitrios





Meh, this happens every few thousand years, nothing unusual, people always were influenced by stuff like this, whether by dying or evolving. No big deal. No reason to use that as agenda to manipulate our behavior or make us buy aphrodisiac youghurt


I don't think it fair to say no big deal even if planetary condition change naturally every few thousand years. It's like saying don't worry about an ice age. Sure I know you don't have to worry about that. Current conditions however we should be concerned about, we should continue trying to understand what is going to happen. If conditions deteriorate in the long term we need to be ready to change lifestyles.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:02 AM by Long Lance
the title is misleading, you want to be talking about the North pole (arctic)

Arctic Sea Ice Re-Freezing at Record Pace


How to Lose 193,000 miles of Ice

now what, it's the same every year OMGG It meltZ!!! how's that possible? shouldn't it be gone by now if it's constantly melting. no of course not. just keeps 'em in the news, on the front page, because that's where the money is at.

take a look at the similarities at the great barrier reef:

Damaged Barrier Reef coral makes 'spectacular' recovery

have you any heard of that? now, while the net trend might still be worrying, blatant omission of contradicting developments simply shatters one's credibility.


much like the polar bear extinction PR stunt, which is of course hard to arrive at by normal reasoning.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


i'm starting to see a pattern, just don't look too closely (or at all for that matter) just blindly believe. hardly convincing, is it?

PS: even typos should be rewarded, wrt. antarctic ice sheets:

As Climate Shifts, Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Growing

some more:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.gsfc.nasa.gov...


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:14 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by endisnighe




The information is derived from weather satellites.

nsidc.org...

svs.gsfc.nasa.gov...

As I stated above, they are interesting. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:16 AM by majestictwo
reply to post by Dermo





There are no rising temperatures.. Even the BBC have recently done a show on this. There are no rising sea levels..we should be under water now if the models were correct.


Oh so the BBC do a TV show and tell you the sea is not rising. That's just fine so why do they report this or can't they make up there mind like many other people.

Perhaps you have to live it to believe it...
The Pacific nation of Tuvalu


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:26 AM by Dermo
reply to post by majestictwo



OOOOhhhh...

This coming from someone using propaganda as evidence?

Im have done enough research on the wider aspects of this subject so see how ridiculous most of the argument towards "global warming" is so there's no point in trying to convince me.

And yes, the BBC.. who did the truthful research into the Tower 7 collapse in 9/11 and documented a number of other truthful incites that are unsavory towards the globalized agenda.


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