Next apocalypse? Mayan year 2012 stirs doomsayers, page 1
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reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 03:36 PM by Aquarius1



reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 03:49 PM by SpeakerofTruth
reply to post by Doomsday 2029



Fella, I only have one thing to tell you,

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
No end

The earth will be renewed, not destroyed.


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 09:55 PM by Brahmanite
Some of the 2012 theorists I think definitely have some some good observations, there is a lot to be learned from some of the theories out there. Remember, apocalypse really just means great change.

Regardless of how many good or positive theories there are out there, the media is grabbing a hold of it and turning it in to some doomsday thing for their very own ratings.

Even if all the stuff that people are saying about our consciousness raising is true and something special does happen to our consciousnesses and culminates on that special day, it is going to likely go unnoticed by the majority of people. Even if it is a serious change it is highly likely that most people will not notice it right away and 2012 will come and go and be swept under the rug in the same exact way that the Y2k bug was.

Hey wadda ya know, if it does turn out to be something 'big' with vast potential but largely unnoticed, it will surely play into the hands of the powers that be if everyone is expecting this cataclysmic event and it doesnt happen, so why not hype it up like that?

But you know. If something really is going on and the people that are working with their consciousness at this specific time in our history do feel positive effects from this period of time, maybe it is better that not everyone is turned on to this side of it.

I expect that most people are going to be 'disappointed' with 12-21-12. At the same time though, I think it has been empowering people to look deeper within themselves, and that there, is great.


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 10:45 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by Brahmanite



You are right about 12-21-12, when nothing happens there will be a thousand reasons why it didn't, of course the first one will be we got the date wrong.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:01 AM by St Udio
excerpts & thoughts & a site that explores the Maya, not pop-western-culture spin on an end-date

+Ancient hieroglyphic texts and codices, the Popol Vuh, the Books of the Chilam Balam, and the works of contemporary Maya are our best resources.
"Secrets of the Talking Jaguar" by Martin Prechtel is about the VILLAGE Mayans who, again don't rely on this Solar-based calendar system.



The fact that the Mayan Long Count was based on the day the sun was in zenith in Izapa, has created a very significant misunderstanding among modern (pop-culture westerners) people, and this is that it (the Maya Long-Count calender) ends on December 21, 2012.

The particular date the sun is in zenith in this location obviously has no relevance to the rest of the world, but because of the power of tradition some will still adhere to it.
In reality, the creation cycle that began as the First Father erected the World Tree ... This day is 13 Ahau in the sacred Mayan calendar,



www2.stetson.edu...

... In spite of a general lack of familiarity with Maya culture outside the Maya homeland; several hundred Internet websites in dozens of languages and a growing corpus of books already focus on the 2012 subject.
Until recently, Maya themselves have contributed relatively little to the 2012 phenomenon since only a small number have had prior exposure to the topic.
The Long Count calendar that establishes the 2012 date fell into disuse well before the invasion of the Maya world by Spanish conquistadors and knowledge of its rediscovery by Western investigators has reached few of today’s Maya. .

*Better known as bak'tun. "Pik" is probably the ancient term (pronounced "peek").




pop-culture approved Maya calender end dates:
Callerman 28 October 2011
Jenkins 21 december 2012

i see both dates as arbitrary, as the Maya empire(s) & city states & unified culture came to it's end during the period 1511-1549 AD...
therefore the prophetic Katuns for the Maya collective, peoples became void and useless...

.i hope that the world's collective mind will help the Maya arise from the ash heap of former cultures, back into prominence on 2012 , when the next 13 Baktun (Pik) begins a new Sacred Calander Long-Count
(~ 5,125 solar years)


thanks


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 06:55 AM by randyvs
reply to post by Aquarius1



Was I the only one taught in school, that the Mayan civilization just one day vanished from the earth?


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 07:49 AM by Hanslune
Originally posted by randyvs
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post by Aquarius1



Was I the only one taught in school, that the Mayan civilization just one day vanished from the earth?


Yes it would appear you were! More seriously the history books I've seen on this mention the Mayan collapse after their classical age. Few note that they were still around when the Spanished showed up. However the organized cities - except for a few, were gone.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 06:42 PM by thomas_
reply to post by Schmidt1989



Not that I support this crazy hype about 2012, but none of the other Mayan calendars that you mention match the dates found in other prophecies of other civilizations. And none of them carry any prophecies regarding their own end date as far as I'm aware. Something that does happen with the calendar in question.

I ching for instance gives the same date from the Mayan calendar. So even though people really freak out just for the sake of freaking because it's cool and gives them something to talk about. It is indeed something odd and a interesting subject to say the least.

Will the world end in 2012?

I don't know and I don't think it will, but that doesn't free us from something major happening that will change the world as we know it.

But living over a possibility is a stupidity. We all know for sure that we will die someday something that isn't a possibility, it's certain and no one seem to care, talk or change the way they do things because of that. So I really can't understand why would people do exactly that over something that in the end can be just nothing.



reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:30 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by tecunuman



Thanks for the information tecunuman, it is always good to hear from someone who actually lived in the area and knows a thing or two..what about the Mayan's in Europe?
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