can humans create a better world just by VISUALIZING it?, page 2
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reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 09:13 AM by majestictwo
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Oh know; now the whole world will think Australia is cruel to animals. Please don't blame us blame the secret.


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:23 PM by kcfusion
Originally posted by rapunzel222
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yeah. well you gotta start somewhere, dont you?

i really dont know that its that impossible. people look after their own self interest at a basic level often and act out of self interest. the worst of us and even the best of us do this.

now if people became convinced that positive change was in their best self interest - they would DEMAND it. and it would HAPPEN.

i think positive change IS in everyone's self interest; but i just dont think people realise this or WHY this is. i think that's a barrier to be overcome; but it can be done.

again, im an optimist


Nothing wrong with the optimism at all my friend. I feel the the only way to achieve what you say is for a few knowledgeable and moral people to get a whole community to come to an agreement of a better world and within their locality implement the idea and cut themselves out of the current system. Once they have a successful new "Better World" system in place they could do a type of big brother TV programme (or some other mass promotion of some kind) and show the whole world what they are missing and how it can be achieved and the benefits etc etc etc only then would the vast majority of the world accept that it is possible. Once they accept that it is possible I see no reason why they would not choose or even want the "Better World" scenario.

My 2 cents anyway.


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:56 PM by John Matrix
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can humans create a better world just by VISUALIZING it?

The answer is No. Because visualization is not enough.
If enough people turn from the direction that the rest of the world is heading....then it's possible to change the world.

Turning from the present direction requires a new path.
Many people see the path, but refuse to follow it.

The world's path is human greed, envy, pride, and a bloodlust for payback.

The opposing direction requires people to walk the path of humility, meekness, patience, and Love.



reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 10:15 PM by Tayesin
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Thank you for the great gift of laughter.

See, we Aussies are very irreverent. It sure lightens our load.


reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 08:52 PM by rapunzel222
well its sad to me all the replies that are saying no.

because if you really believe that, then that is the reality you will manifest.

maybe if you tried you could manifest a more positive reality.


if EVERY person visualised a better world (and acted upon it) of course the world would change. so it is possible, as a matter of fact.

the thing that you believe is impossible, is that everyone would WANT to visualise a different world.

this is not impossible, its just a huge challenge, to make lots of people see the world differently.

so its a problem to be solved, as to how to go about inducing people to WANT to visualise a better world. this is a problem to be solved.

lots of people try to do this every day. try to change people's minds around them and get them to see the world differently. thats how i think people could start. baby steps. but at least you're contributing, hey? rather than sitting back and saying 'whats the point it cant be done'.

by saying 'whats the point it cant be done' you're actually proving my theory. you are VISUALIZING the outcome that it can't be done. Therefore the reality will manifest that it cant be done.

if you prefer to act rather than talk tahts cool. cuz if you're acting you've already visualised changing something.

if you'd rather sit back and watch tv because there's no point and we're all gonna die miserable, then you've already given up; you're already defeated; and yes, the reality you visualize may occur as a result of YOU and others like you. not assigning blame, just saying i think this visualising whether positive or negative is a powerful thing and leads to real results - and even if you dont believe in it, you are taking part in it.


reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 11:37 AM by Brother Stormhammer
Originally posted by rapunzel222
oh btw, the anastasia series of 'new age' type books i found really interesting. she says similar things about if she visualises something hapening it will happen. becuz of her really i now have a vegetable garden and a different outlook on plants and animals and our relationship with them- especially plants. i now go around watering and freaking out about my plants too...although not as much as i should really. they're worth the read i think, if only out of interest's sake.

available from amazon.com probly.

its funny but as i read her book its like i can FEEL the enormous power of her words. Its like there's magic in it or something. i always end up very emotional after reading bits of it.





Here's a quick 'thought experiment' for you. Go out and clear your garden. Harvest *everything*. Once that's done, till everything under. Now, go back inside, and wait. Every day, visualize your garden. Don't water it, don't weed it, don't fertilize it...don't even plant seeds in it. Just Visualize and Believe. Come back in six months and tell us how your garden came out. Next time you're hungry, Visualize a nice grilled-chicken sandwich. Believe in it. Feel free to report on how long it takes for you to stop feeling hungry.

Am I making fun of you, personally? Nope. I am, however, making fun of a ridiculous idea...it's a habit that has served me well for 47 years. Note that all of those authors who wrote all those books about Visualization didn't just Visualize a pile of money for themselves...they wrote books, and convinced people to give them coin of the realm for them. If you want results, you have to act.
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