2012 According to REAL Mayan history

The ancient Maya beleived the the cosmos was made up of nine underworlds.

This is the pyramid of the plumed serpent, count the levels, there are nine, representing the underworlds.




9 Is not just important for maya, for Jews there are 9 doors to the holiest part of the temple, and 9 arms of the hanukkah candle stand.
Muslims the holy month of ramadam is the 9th, viking mythology says the cosmos is made up of 9 worlds.

Christian missionaries thought these 9 underworlds where hells, but they couldnt understand why the maya would climb to the top of the temple to perform sacrafice. In truth they represent world mountains, a place where they can be closer to the cosmos.

Each step of the pyramid represented a level of conciousness, the highest was for the most spritiual of leaders, and people found it a honour to be sacraficed up there.

At the present time we are beginning to enter the eighth level of consciousness of the cosmic pyramid, based on the foundation provided by the seven lower levels. This eighth level may be referred to as the galactic frame of consciousness as it will step by step lead humanity to identify primarily with the galaxy. The highest level of consciousness, the Universal, will be attained through the workings of the Ninth Underworld in the year 2011 and will result in a timeless cosmic consciousness, and a citizenship in the universe, on the part of humanity.


Just throwing something in here, didn't webbots predict a alien man will emerge in 2011?

So forget the doom and gloom, good things are in store for us..

Sweet thing, and what I ponder about, is that the Start of our univers is in the Tun calendar at 16.4 billion years ago, who was around to start the 'timer' back then ?

did they Maya just 'guess it' , and isnt main stream science also saying 16.4 billion years ?
Let us for fun sakes say this, the start date is correct, why should the end date be ??

I find it very peculiar that there is a 'start' dated in the ancient knowledge and also they say it 'ends'.. Dont you think ?

I would again like to point to the cross of henday, it states the same thing, and it is more than 350 years old, when did they discover that Maya long count calendar ?

reply to post by ChemBreather


A sequence of Thirteen such time periods would then make up a creation cycle of Thirteen Heavens with the specified durations. Thus, each of the Nine Underworlds was created through a sequence of Thirteen Heavens. To exemplify, the longest of the tun-based time cycles was the hablatun of 460 800 000 000 days = 1.26 billion years. Thirteen such hablatuns makes up a creation cycle of a total duration of 13 x 1.26 = 16.4 billion years that created the lowest, the first Underworld. This is a curious finding since this time period, 16.4 billion years, is very close to the age of the universe, 15 billion years, the time when matter first emerged from light (Big Bang).

The mayans where almost bang on the actual start of the universe, coincidence?

reply to post by Haydn_17


Just to add the first of the 9 represents creation, upon this the most basic of the Nine Underworlds, are then built eight other Underworlds each carrying and developing a special frame of consciousness for the life that it creates. In this way a hierarchical nine-leveled structure is created where lower levels of consciousness provide the foundation for new and higher levels.

The estimated age of the Universe has changed repeatedly over history. I expect it will continue to change as we learn more. It tends to increase over time.

That the scientific estimate happens to agree somewhat with some mystical number is not compelling. A few years ago, the scientific age was less than that, so they didn't agree. A few years from now, perhaps, it again will not agree with the Mayans. Then what?

You really can't use very approximate scientific guesses to validate anyone else's guess. Everyone's got a different number for the age, ranging from around 6000 years (certain Christians), to many hundreds of trillions. As science revises its estimate, that number is likely to accidentally agree with various different guesses by different groups. That doesn't prove anything.

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I thought it was mid-2010? about the person with no human DNA appearing on the scene, by escpaing from a prison camp in S.America.

then again it IS web-bot... can't really depend on that