It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by ecoparity
Or, I got an Idea!
Why don't birthers get some real evidence to the contrary?
There is the non believer side. What do you guys have?
Two of the websites you linked to are debating if the short form BC is real. That's not the question AFAIC. I've already stated why a short form certificate from Hawaii is not proof of citizenship - even non citizens can get one. What they cannot provide is a long form BC which is what I would like to see to settle the issue.