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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Maybe for some, but not for many of the respected members here at ATS.
To verify we did indeed have the correct document, we contacted the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records.
"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo said June 13, 2008.
Fukino yesterday issued a statement saying that she and the registrar of vital statistics personally inspected Obama's birth certificate and found it to be valid.
You keep saying that "birthers" have no legitimate reason to question this issue, and that Obama already released his BC. You are entitled to your opinion, but it won't sway mine one bit. Not until this is settled for good.
Any self respecting
A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrarâ€™s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes
Originally posted by jd140
I merely pointed out that some people do in fact need a long form to get a passport.
You didn't ask if Hawaiins need a long form, you just ask where it states that you need one
yep, 30 pages. kinda makes you think theres a lot of people who still question this. but if you like obama,it's just too much.
if you're really tired of folks asking for enforcement of the constitution, theres a whole bunch of other topics you can go to.
Originally posted by JoshNorton
Why (and for that matter, How) on earth would the state of Hawaii have his original birth certificate if they weren't the ones who issued it?
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
The official State of Hawaii comment from state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
He doesn't even confirm that the birth certificate says Obama was born in Hawaii, why not? That carefully worded statement raises more questions by what it DOESN'T say, than it answers.
The only document purporting to be Mr. Obama’s birth certificate was actually a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth [COLB], an image of which was placed on Obama’s campaign website in June of 2008. It is important to note, Hawaii also issues Certification of Live Births to children born abroad upon the registration by a family member of the birth. A Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth is issued to children who are United States “natural born” citizens as well as “naturalized” citizens, who did not qualify for “natural born” status. Take for instance, Maya Soetoro, Mr. Obama’s half-sister who was born in Jakarta, Indonesia in 1970, she too has a Certification of Live Birth, however, she is not a United States “natural born” citizen.
In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL. (snip)
Hawaii Home Lands won’t take it, but Obama insists it certifies him to be Commander-in-Chief.
please refer to article II,section 1 of the united states constitution
there is no stipulation that elegibilty is overridden by the fourth amendment. if it did,no one would have to prove anything.
and this makes sense to you???