The Cause and Cure for Cancer, page 2
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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:28 PM by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by nwodeath



Cancer is not a fungus. Fungal cells have a very distinct morphology and energy sourse/use profile. Cancer cells are eukaryotic, mammalian, and identifiable. In fact, we can produce cancer cells in cell culture in order to "immortalize" a cell line. I did this routinely when I was a researcher with rat fibroblasts.

To suggest that anyone with even a passing knowledge of cell biology would confuse a fungal cell with a mammalian cell is a bit odd.



reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:34 PM by uplander
OH MY GOODNESS! You're for real, aren't you? You have that certain amount of zeal that really seems sincere.

I think maybe you should rethink the drinking urine thing. Please note that a tendency to consume the body's waste products such as stool, urine, and sweat is a clearly defined pyschiatric illness.

Without much ado, I would recommend a visit to your primary care doctor or a pychiatrist if anyone of you continues to have a strong urge to consume your wast products.

It doesn't matter if you read it in some book, watched it on some TV trick, or saw a well known personality do same; you should talk to your pyschiatrist about this urge.

From a microbiological, biochemical, and physiological points of view, there is no reason a normal person should drink his or her own urine, eat his or her stool, or drink their sweat.

Even if you don't understand pathophysiology, you've got to have the common sense to know that your body has discarded these products as a result of millions of years of evolution.

If you eat your own stool, or drink your own urine; the pschiatrist will be glad to treat you for corprophilia and urophilia respectively.


The substance urokinase, a fibrinolytic agent found in urine, and found effective in opening clogged arteries like the coronary of the heart.

You should not drink your own urine or that of anyother person because:

1. You need 4400IU/kg/hr of this drug in a purified form over 2hr to open a clogged artery. In urine, you do not know how many ml of urine could give you this quantity- a cup, 2, or all the urine samples passed in your yard or village that particular morning- you just don't know.
2. Too small a quantity would not do the job, but too large an amount will lead to uncontrolled bleeding in your brain, bladder and bowel
3. Urine, like other waste products of the body contain toxic and very harmful products of metabolism.
4. The body uses urine to flush the ureters, urethra, and entire genitourinary system, if you drink this urine, you also drink harmful bacteria that should have been flushed
5. You drink shed and dead tissues with urine
6. Cancer cells may also be consumed as you try to question nature for getting rid by-products
7.Biochemically, urine helps to maintain body acidity, when you drink urine, you help throw your body off balance in terms of ph
8.Volume control is also thrown off balance when you resort to drinking your own urine
9. Blood pressure, salt balance is likely to be disturbed with urine consumption
10. For every ml of urine consumed for urokinase, you also drink urea-ammonia, phosphate, and other deadly elements.
11. If you're a chronic urine drinker, be sure to tell your family, boy/girl friend, because you will surely be spreading all sorts of diseases.

Elizabeth Kafaru, the woman at the forefront of urine therapy, died suddenly. Elizabeth Kafaru had been battling cancer for a while before she died.



You should be ashamed of yourself coming in here advocating this mess to people who may have cancer. Do did you have cancer or a yeast infection (candida)?


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:41 PM by uplander
Originally posted by nwodeath
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Dr. Troll, I presume?



You're calling me a troll why? Because I dared to call you out on your "Miracle Cure for CANCER!"?


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:53 PM by Egyptia
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa



From the website: www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com...

"Urine is not a dirty and toxic substance rejected by the body. Urine is a by-product of blood filtration, not waste filtration. Medically it is referred to as "plasma ultrafiltrate". It is a purified derivative of the blood itself, made by the kidneys--whose principal function is not excretion but regulation of all the elements and their concentrations in the blood. Urine can be compared to leftovers from a meal, and this metaphor may help us understand why our bodies excrete elements that are valuable to our health and well-being".

Full article in link provided




[edit on 14-10-2009 by Egyptia]


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:59 PM by nwodeath
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
I'd have to side with uplander on this one. Urine contains high levels of urea, salts and metabolites that aren't useful for your body's energy needs. That's not to mention the acidophilic bacteria, cell bits, and other toxins that your renal system kicks out of your body an into your urine. It's leaving for a reason.


Yeah, that leaves out all sorts of quantum mechanics at work too. If doctors knew what they were doing, cancer would cured long ago.

Listen and listen carefully, if you care about the truth.

My girlfriend was diagnosed with cervical cancer many years ago. She did the original research and learned about it. I laughed. She cured herself in 1 year using it. I listened.

A few years later I got a planters wart on my foot. It was spreading into 3 or 4 new ones that were starting. I soaked my foot in urine for 20 minutes a day for 5 days until it started to recede. I went to a doctor ONLY AFTER I started to see it vanish to find out what it was and if it was going away. The dumbass doctor asked me how I cured my planters wart. He told me "You HAD a planter's wart and now it's dead. We usually have to freeze these things off. How did you do it?" I replied that I soaked my foot in urine for five days for twenty minutes per day, and he laughed at me. Then he asked me again, "so how did you do it?" I repeated myself and he got angry with me and said, "fine, if you don't want to tell me how you got rid of it...why did you come here anyways?!"

Stupid doctors and their BULLCRAP mindsets and money making scandals. My father died because instead of treating him for his issues, they gave him chemo and two weeks later he was dead. I trust doctors like I trust the president. If you trust doctors, let them kill you. I choose life, not stupidity or money making snake oil salesmen. There is no money to be made from urine therapy and every doctor would go broke overnight, so doctors can all vanish for all I care, because we don't need them or their stupidity. Surgeons are important for emergencies, but doctors can all lose their professions for all I care. They are almost meaningless.

[edit on 14-10-2009 by nwodeath]


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:02 AM by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by Egyptia



I have no doubt that, if you were perfectly healthy, your urine wouldn't harm you. The problem, as I mentioned, is bacterial contamination. When you have any sort of internal infection (even cold, flu, pneumonia, etc), some of that bacteria is excreted in the urine, still alive. This can cause recurrent or secondary infections.

Also worth noting is the high salt content. Continually ingesting sizable amount of urine can jump your sodium level, causing a blood pressure spike, as well. This causes stress on your heart and pulmonary system.


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:05 AM by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by nwodeath



Correlation doesn't equal causation, nwodeath. There is no evidence tying cancer remission to any chemical found in urine. How does that even make sense? Every chemical found in urine is IN YOUR BODY until it is expelled. Swallowing liquids sends them rushing toward your kidneys with minimal processing, meaning those same chemicals are just making a circuit. If it was in your body to begin with, you aren't adding anything to your nutritional profile, you're just absorbing more salt.

And as for "not trusting doctors", I honestly don't care if you do or don't. I'm one year away from being one myself. My rotations are in a public health facility, and I intend to practice in a public health facility, meaning I'm not making money through procedures, by patient volume, or by which drugs I prescribe. I have a fixed salary regardless of whether I prescribe brand name drugs and expensive surgeries or not. With that said, I will ALWAYS give precedence to treatments that have solid, reproducable, verified data to back them, rather than some shmuck on the "inter-tubes" who swears that dunking his foot in urine cured his wart.

[edit on 10/15/2009 by VneZonyDostupa]



reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:15 AM by VneZonyDostupa
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How ignorant of me to believe in a system that has doubled the average lifespan in the last 100 years. Us medical types must be doing something wrong, we're supposed to be KILLING them, not saving them, according to the nutter brigade on ATS.


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:16 AM by nwodeath
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
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How ignorant of me to believe in a system that has doubled the average lifespan in the last 100 years. Us medical types must be doing something wrong, we're supposed to be KILLING them, not saving them, according to the nutter brigade on ATS.


Doctors= Murderers


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:17 AM by VneZonyDostupa
Originally posted by nwodeath
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to
post by nwodeath



How ignorant of me to believe in a system that has doubled the average lifespan in the last 100 years. Us medical types must be doing something wrong, we're supposed to be KILLING them, not saving them, according to the nutter brigade on ATS.


Doctors= Murderers


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