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reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 12:47 AM by Matyas
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Very good links P.

Is there a way to find out Pavel Ivanov's complete classifications of the perpetuum mobile? The second is hinted at, and the third described.


reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 03:28 AM by McGinty
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Wow, that's even more Tesla than Tesla!

Thanks for the interesting news.



reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 03:31 AM by spikey
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I am often amazed at the apparent lack of vision and foresight demonstrated by people who are otherwise, outwardly at least, intelligent people.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 12:03 PM by buddhasystem
Before we hear more of the lamentations about how advanced technology was known to humans in antiquity but was suppressed by evil forces (which I think is complete nonsense), let's take a look at the actual physics here:

physicsworld.com...

The magnetic moments in a spin ice do not line up like those in a ferromagnet. Instead physicists believe that they join up to create magnetic flux lines within the material that resemble a knotted mess of strings. However, if a moment is flipped – a string is broken and the magnetic flux spills out in a manner resembling a monopole.
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The spin-ice monopoles have very different origins from the monopoles famously predicted by Paul Dirac's work on quantum electrodynamics.


The keywords here are "resembling" and "very different".

Yes, physics is complex most of the time. Yes, laypeople are prone to sensationalize some aspects of it (e.g. "Angels and Demons").



reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 02:27 PM by spikey
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No..it isn't.

At least, not at the moment. But, it's heading in the right direction isn't it.

As a theoretical physicist of some stated merit, you would be familiar with what is being said in top science regarding advances in area previously considered intellectual no-go areas.

Would it surprise you to know that predictions of 50 to 100 years, until we have time travel are seriously being backed by top science names?
Or teleportation..reckoned to be perhaps a mere 50 years away?

And so on.

Areas of scientific study, deemed until really quite recently (publicly, at least) to be utter nonsense and reserved for the likes of fantasist's and dreamers are actively being researched and projects are in progress around the world.

It seems as most people of an alternative 'bent', who have been actively researching these 'impossible' areas previously and were rewarded with scorn and ridicule, and lack of funding, have been pretty much vindicated by today's mainstream science.

Whilst the impossible of yesterday is not still not yet here, it's becoming much more possible every day.

It's early days...


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 02:49 PM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by spikey
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No..it isn't.

At least, not at the moment. But, it's heading in the right direction isn't it.


No it's not. Re-read the post by micspi and the reference I gave above. Magnetic monopole is a singularity similar to an electron, and an entity onto itself that can exist in vacuum. The OP talks about a solid state physics phenomenon. Try to think about it.

Would it surprise you to know that predictions of 50 to 100 years, until we have time travel are seriously being backed by top science names?
Or teleportation..reckoned to be perhaps a mere 50 years away?


Again, this is irrelevant. We are discussing the experiment referred to in the OP, which has NOTHING to do with Dirac monopoles and presents just an interesting quirk in solid state.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 03:53 PM by Zelong
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This would of spent a lot of electricity to achieve this result,
These crystals are made up of pyramids of charged atoms, or ions, arranged in such a way that when cooled to exceptionally low temperatures, the materials show tiny, discrete packets of magnetic charge.


but,

The muons decay millionths of a second after their production into other sub-atomic particles.


Tinkering I call it with something to show for a result.

Zelong.


reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 07:13 AM by just an allusion
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Phooey! I'm still waiting for the scientific community to recognize 'magnetism' as the STRONG force.


reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 12:43 AM by RoofMonkey
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So your saying that they have generated a proxy that behaves the way they believe that magnetic monopoles will act? Sort of like modeling black hole / white hole behavior in a wave tank with a restrictive flow area? Waves propagate "upstream" and stall at the simulated event horizon.

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