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What Soros Wanted, Obama Delivers,Esperanto?

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posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 03:04 PM
reply to post by plumranch

To me it had George Soros written all over it but the order was confidential.

Yes, it did, it was a topic I investigated a couple of years ago, and I believe they did it.

posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 03:06 PM

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
reply to post by Stormdancer777

Wow, Storm, this whole thread is a lot to take in ... Incredible sourcing and opinion/observations...

Like my wife says... "don't stop"


Lucky gal, lol

posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 05:24 PM

The U.N.'s Man of Mystery
Is the godfather of the Kyoto treaty a public servant or a profiteer?

Why did President Bush Withdraw US Support? :
George Bush made campaign promises in 2000 to regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant. However, in 2001, George Bush pulled the US out of the Kyoto accords as one of the first acts of his presidency. Bush dismissed Kyoto Protocol as too costly, describing it as "an unrealistic and ever-tightening straitjacket." Lately, the White House has even questioned the validity of the science behind global warming, and claims that millions of jobs will be lost if the US joins in this world pact.
Anger Over US Withdrawal from Kyoto Protocol:
"The evidence of this worsening crisis continues to mount," said Al Gore yesterday, accusing Bush of showing the world "a stunning display of moral cowardice."

"Kyoto's ability to survive the near-fatal attacks of the Bush administration is testimony to the urgency of the climate problem." Worldwatch Institute

"As the world celebrates the global warming pact's debut, Bush continues to pander to the energy industry." Laurie David, Natural Resources Defense Council

Bush and Strong had a falling out after Bush refused to sign the KP.

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posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 06:12 PM

The Men Who Run the World
The Lucis (Lucifer) Trust

United Nations

Greenpeace International

Greenpeace USA

Amnesty International


At this United Nations Environmental Program conference, founded by Maurice Strong,

[Executive Coordinator for United Nations Reform under Secretary to UN Sec. General Kofi Annan], promoted the idea of an "Environmental Sabbath," a variation of the Gaia concept. At the 1992 Rio Earth Summit Strong’s wife Hanne Marstrand [founder of the Earth Restoration Corps (ERC)] simultaneously conducted the UN- NGO "Global Forum" of enlightened ‘Wisdom Keepers’; authors of the Declaration of Sacred Earth.

Strong has now described the global environmental movement in terms suggesting a religious crusade. One of his organizations, the Earth Council, together with Mikhail Gorbachev of the Green Cross International, has produced an "Earth Charter" for the world that refers to respect for "Mother Earth" or the Gaia principle.

Remember Strong is angry with GW over his failure to join in on Strong's pet project the Kyoto protocol

, he said, "I am not anti-US but I am pro Canada" when speaking about the US’s repudiation of the Kyoto Protocol. "The US is the world’s only super power and also its super polluter. This is the reason why people and governments around the world reacted with shock and dismay at their decision."

Then W. came to Washington and has run an agenda to enrich people just like himself. He put in a weak SEC chairman so that nobody would bother his fellow CEOs taking shortcuts. He drove tax cuts for the wealthy with a reckless disregard for the finances of the United States, and worst of all, he tried to protect his oil cronies by pulling the U.S. out of the Kyoto Protocol, the international agreement to stop global warming. So now we've got the crony capitalist tool in the White House and ExxonMobil driving U.S. energy policy.

Now for the other former energy industry executive-turned-world leader, Maurice Strong. Strong came to prominence as one of Canada's business chieftains, rising to the top of several major Canadian power companies. He then took a wild turn into the diplomatic world and went to the United Nations as an undersecretary-general in the early 1970s to lead the first conference in Stockholm on the environment.

Strong was the Secretary General of the Stockholm (1972) UN Conference on the Human Environment and the Rio UNCED/Earth Summit (1992). In other words, instead of spending his public career trying to further enrich the energy industry cronies he left behind in Canada, he has focused on trying to wrestle some of the greatest global ecological threats.

Now his greatest opponent is George W. Bush.

The Lucis (Lucifer) Trust

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posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 06:20 PM

A New Global Religion


“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.”

“To shake off the maddening and wearying limitations of time and space and natural law — to be linked with the vast outside — to come close to the nighted and abysmal secrets of the infinite and ultimate — surely such a thing was worth the risk of one’s life, soul, and sanity!”
- H. P. Lovecraft, ” The Whisperer in Darkness”

[edit on 063131p://bMonday2009 by Stormdancer777]

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:27 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

In an essay by Strong entitled Stockholm to Rio: A Journey Down a Generation, he says:

"Strengthening the role the United Nations can play...will require serious examination of the need to extend into the international arena the rule of law and the principle of taxation to finance agreed actions which provide the basis for governance at the national level. But this will not come about easily. Resistance to such changes is deeply entrenched. They will come about not through the embrace of full blown world government, but as a careful and pragmatic response to compelling imperatives and the inadequacies of alternatives."

"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. What is needed is recognition of the reality that in so many fields, and this is particularly true of environmental issues, it is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security."[8]

Maurice Strong has demonstrated an uncanny ability to manipulate people, institutions, governments, and events to achieve the outcome he desires. Through his published writings and public presentations he has declared his desire to empower the U.N. as the global authority to manage a new era of global governance. He has positioned his NGO triumvirite, the IUCN, WWF, and the WRI, to varnish U.N. activity with the perception of "civil society" respectability. And now he has been appointed Senior Advisor to the U.N. Secretary General and assigned the responsibility of reforming the United Nations bureaucracy. The fox has been given the assignment, and all the tools necessary, to repair the henhouse to his liking.

So, I am resurrecting this old topic because Beck talked about all of this on his show last night,

Which poster are you Beck?

Anyway, what was the bottom line where would the power shift?


Guess where Strong lives, China.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
An interview, titled The Wizard Of the Baca Grande, which Maurice Strong conducted with West magazine of Alberta, Canada, in May 1990, he provides details which elucidate the reasons behind the Illuminati’s support of the environmental movement.

Strong concluded with a disturbing apocalyptic scenario he would to include in a novel he says he would like to write:

Each year the World Economic Forum convenes in Davos, Switzerland. Over a thousand CEOs, prime ministers, finance ministers, and leading academics gather in February to attend meetings and set the economic agendas for the year ahead.

What if a small group of these word leaders were to conclude that the principle risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it? Will the rich countries agree to reduce their impact on the environment? Will they agree to save the earth?

The group’s conclusion is “no.” The rich countries won’t do it. They won’t change. So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?

This group of world leaders form a secret society to bring about a world collapse. It’s February. They’re all at Davos. These aren’t terrorists ­ they’re world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world’s commodity and stock markets. They’ve engineered, using their access to stock exchanges, and computers, and gold supplies, a panic.

Then they prevent the markets from closing. They jam the gears. They have mercenaries who hold the rest of the world leaders at Davros as hostage. The markets can’t close. The rich countries...?” and Strong makes a slight motion with his fingers as if he were flicking a cigarette butt out of the window.[10]

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I believe this is happening.

As we look back in retrospect, the puzzle pieces are falling into place.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:35 AM
Skeptic Overlords contribution to my CT was the book he posted under another topic,

A Peoples History of The United States #v=onepage&q&f=false

Chapter 23

The Coming Revolt of The Guards


posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:46 AM

We have long known this Marxist idea was nothing more than a continuation of the communist desire to “spread the wealth” by forcibly stealing from those who create and earn, and giving to those that don’t. This is an inbred mental defect that can’t be cured, only contained, the most effective way being: not to elect these evil, corrupt people in the first place!

When we first learned of the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) we smelled a rat. No one has been more radical than Barack Obama when it comes to pushing the “global warming” hoax, and the “cap and trade” scheme. Being based in Chicago, common sense told us that Obama was somehow involved, and it was as corrupt as the day is long.

It took Glenn Beck to put it all together, and he has done a remarkable job of spelling it all out. In the videos below, Glenn documents Obama’s ties to the multi-trillion dollar carbon trading scam, Goldman Sachs, the Joyce Foundation, domestic terrorist Bill Ayers’ brother, Al Gore, George Soros, Maurice Strong and a whole cast of nerdowells.

Beck does a great job of connecting the dots here, as well as spelling out the scam itself. It’s quite interesting to note that all of the Marxist-democrats were pounding Goldman Sachs in their “show trial” for their handling of derivatives, a “synthetic” financial product, created out of thin air. Never mind it was the Marxist-democrat Party controlled Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac who were involved in the creation of this product, and President Bill Clinton who sanctioned it.

Even Obama’s boss, George Soros, got in on the act writing an essay on his website speaking to the dangers of derivatives.

And yet, this is what carbon trading is, in a way. You are not buying a real product, or producing a benefit. Trading carbon credits can best be described as a “sin tax” with the “sinner” being able to purchase the ability to continuing “sinning,” without stopping the “sinful behavior” in any way whatsoever. You are simply redistributing wealth. In this case, those who actually produce will be forced to purchase the right to continue to produce from those who don’t produce. A real triumph for the glorious communist revolution!

But stealing money from the producers, and giving it to the non-producers is only half the story. These carbon credits will have to be tracked and traded. These credits will be treated as any other commodity, and traded on the open market. This is where the Chicago Climate Exchange comes in. They will be the only exchange for trading these credits and will make hefty commissions buying and selling these credits. (They get paid coming and going)

Energy prices will “necessarily skyrocket” because of two factors. One, because producers will have to purchase these credits, adding to the cost of doing business, a cost that will be passed on to the consumer, and two, these producers will be forced to buy the privilege of continuing to produce, from the Chicago Climate Exchange, which will raise the cost of doing business even more, again this will be passed on to the consumer.

This is where Obama, and the rest of what Beck is calling Crime, Incorporatedcome in. Conservative estimates are Obama, Gore and the other scam artists involved in this deal will gross ten trillion dollars yearly, selling nothing but thin air.

They are lengthy, about 10 minutes each, but watch Glenn as he systematically spells out the entire scam. Pay particular attention to the “shadowy figure” he introduces partway into all of this.

For people that cannot watch the video, 19


5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:49 AM


“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.”

Felt like repeating this.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 11:12 AM

Since the 4. World Wilderness Congress in 1987, where Earth Charter co-author and illuminist, Mr. Maurice Strong introduced his friend, Edmund de Rothschild, the world never became the same: The Devil – excuse me - CO2 was at large. Rothschild stated that CO2 was the cause of non-existent man-made global warming. CO2, therefore, had to be caught and transported to the poles and into the Sahara to lower the temperatures there! This absurdity was accepted without discussion at the UN Rio Summit in 1992!! More about this on this video, after 28:45 min mark, where Rothschild states : “This needs money!”(our money). He is having it now through a stroke of genius.


Left Edmund de Rothschild

Here is Rothschild´s approach to grabbing 30% of the Earth with the consent of our governments/central banks
Andrew Hitchcock: “The History of the Money Changers”, 2006: In 1987, Edmund de Rothschild creates the World Conservation Bank which is designed to transfer debts from third world countries to this bank, and in return those countries would give land to this bank. The idea is for the IMF to create more and more SDR’s backed by nothing, in order for struggling nations to borrow them. These nations will then gradually come under the control of the IMF as they struggle to pay the interest, and have to borrow more and more. The IMF will then decide which nations can borrow more and which will starve. They can also use this as leverage to take state owned assets like utilities as payment against the debt until they eventually own the nation states.
1988: The World Central Bank has three arms, the World Bank, the BIS and the IMF. 2000: How the World bank and the IMF took over Argentina, Tanzania and Bolivia. Terrible reading. The IMF is closely interwoven and here with Rothschild´s BIS Bank, and the BIS, IMF and the World Bank have a common external website.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 11:23 AM

“The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome

The Club of Rome

To master the effects of climate change, we have to redefine and reorient economic growth,

Our society has been built on the notion that economic growth is entirely positive. This made sense as long as we were few people on the planet and the global economy was small compared to the natural system. This is no longer the case: more than two thirds of the most important ecosystems are being overused. The present path of development cannot continue much longer. We have to be more concerned about the quality and content of growth, not simply the quantitative increase of growth. This is both a challenge and an opportunity to lay the foundations of innovative, resource efficient, sustainable and socially-just societies.

If we are to succeed in mastering the threats of climate change, we must re-examine the concepts and assumptions which underlie policy and thus the negotiating process.

OH well

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 11:34 AM
So back to Esperanto WOU&hl=en&ei=PCjsS8alE4L98Abb9vi9BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

posted on May, 16 2010 @ 03:02 PM
Maurice Strong

Source watch,

His current appointments include: [1]

* Under-Secretary General and Special Advisor to the Secretary-General, United Nations
* Special Advisor to the Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme
* Chairman, Earth Council Institute
* Chairman, International Advisory Board, CH2M Hill Group Inc.
* Director, Foundation Board, World Economic Forum
* Director, The Human Society of the United States
* Member, Toyota International Advisory Board
* Director, Zenon Environmental Inc.
* Advisory Council, LEAD International [2]

Past appointments include:

* Special Advisor to the President, World Bank
* 1998-2001 Mamber International Advisory Board, Federation of Korean Industry
* 1992-1995 Chairman, Ontario Hydro
* 1992 Secretary General, United Nations Conference on Environment and Development
* 1985-1986 Executive Coordinator, United Nations Office for Emergency Operations in Africa
* 1983-1987 Member World Commission on Environment and Development
* 1976-1978 President, Chairman of the Board and Chairman of the Executive Committee, Petro-Canada
* 1973-1975 Executive Director, United Nations Environment Programme, Nairobi, Kenya
* 1970-1972 Secretary-General, United Nations Conference on the Human Environment
* 1970-1972, 1976-1980, Chairman, Board of Governors, International Development Research Centre, Membmer of the Foundation Board of the World Economic Forum
* 1966-1970 Headed Canada's International Development Assistance Program as Director-General of the External Aid Office, and later as President and Chairman of the Board of the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA)
* 1966-1970 Alternate Governor for Canada- International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD), the Asian Development Bank (ADB), and the Caribbean Development Bank (CDB), Chairman, Bureau of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources

"After the Earth Summit, Strong continued to take a leading role in implementing the results of Rio through establishment of the Earth Council, the Earth Charter movement, his Chairmanship of the World Resources Institute, Membership on the Board of the International Institute for Sustainable Development, the Stockholm Environment Institute, the African-American Institute, the Institute of Ecology in Indonesia, the Beijer Institute of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and others. Strong was a longtime Foundation Director of the World Economic Forum, a Senior Advisor to the President of the World Bank, a Member of the International Advisory of Toyota Motor Corporation, the Advisory Council for the Center for International Development of Harvard University, the World Business Council for Sustainable Development, the World Conservation Union (IUCN), the World Wildlife Fund, Resources for the Future, and the Eisenhower Fellowships." [3]

"Mr. Strong founded the Earth Council in 1992 after the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, and is now extending that leadership with a new mandate to unite local councils and affiliated organizations under the Earth Council Alliance with co-founder Tommy E. Short.

"In addition, he is currently spending much of his time in China in his role as advisor to government, business and United Nations organizations. He also is a special advisor to the Secretary-General of the United Nations, as well as chairman of the council, University for Peace, affiliated with United Nations...

"Earlier in his career Mr. Strong served in investment and senior management positions with corporations in the energy and financial sectors. He was president of the Power Corporation of Canada before leaving in 1966 to head Canada’s External Aid Office, later reorganized as the Canadian International Development Agency.

"Mr. Strong returned to Canada as president, chairman and CEO of Petro-Canada (1976-78). He served as Chairman of the International Energy Development Corporation from 1980 to 1983 and of the Canada Development Investment Corporation from 1982 to 1984." [4]

You know I used to be able to spend hours trailing all these sources, but I just can't do it anymore.

posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 11:33 AM
Globalists Race To Enforce Criminal Carbon Tax

Both Strong and Gore come from the Club of Rome clique, who in their 1991 Report, “The First Global Revolution” openly admitted how they were planning to exploit the contrived hoax of global warming in order to further their agenda.

The elite are still desperate to impose a consumption tax on Americans as part of the move towards a “post-industrial revolution” and the kind of nightmare “green economy” that has left Spain with a 20 per cent unemployment rate. In a so-called green economy, over 2.2 jobs are lost for every “green job” created.

posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 02:30 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

While living under a rock for the last 62 years, I missed the introduction Esperanto until reciently. It looks like a great idea, but it should be noted that many scriptures of the world warn against a one world landguage, a one world currency, and especially against a one world government. When learning a language, the underlying philosophies of the peoples that currently speak that linguage is imparted. One will initially and naturally learn language basics at home during the pre-school years. The fine tuning of the language takes place in schools, such as the current US government run schools that take away the "need" for arts, music, and now even sports to assure the children are properly assimilated into the New American Culture, of Multi-Culturalism, atheism, intitlement-ism, a lack of respect for the nation's founders and just about every principle that has made America great. If I were a child learning Esperanto through the Obama and George Soros system, (throughout all the schools of the world) isn't it likely that their Progressive philosophical indoctrination of the "Open Society" and "Fallibilism" (the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken.) will be given formost priority in their text books? What is the underlying Culture of Esperanto? It has none, but that which has been assigned by the Soros circles of influence.
The Obama administration is riddled with appointees that believe in a Alinski approach to implement a George Soros “Open Society” New World Order. The Soros "Open Society" is founded on the Progressive ideology of government designed liberty of authorized rights and entitlements. the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements being licensed to the individual or corporation." I suspect my grand children learning Esperanto will not lead to greater liberty in the United States or the World.

posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 06:17 PM
Esperanto is but one of the world's invented languages. Another is Interlingua. They seem to have peaked in the middle of the 20th century and are now in decline, as the internet (and airlines) have pushed English on the rest of the world.

I had once thought that Esperanto would be a perfect basis for a nearly unbreakable code, as its grammatical rules are simple and ironclad, so that the basic vocabulary could be expressed as four-digit numerals and the various grammatical considerations could be added on as additional numbers.

Anyway, no evidence that Obama knows or cares about Esperanto, but recently it was shown on videotape that Obama knows the Sign Language of the Deaf, at least enough for conversing.

posted on Apr, 26 2014 @ 08:27 PM
a reply to: Stormdancer777

Yeah i'm reviving this cus I want to know has your feelings changed in the last few years about Esperanto?

I tell ya.. I failed Spanish in school. I hated it. Esperanto is supposed to be 4 times easier to learn. If I could have chosen this as an elective instead of Spanish, I would have.

I didn't know Esperanto was used by Soros or the Illuminati. I think it's an interesting thing to try to learn and i plan to start soon.

Tell me.. did you learn a language in school? I think it's wrong to force students to take other language classes against their will but if your stuck with it, i'd rather the easiest to learn.

I do not agree with using any language including English as an international language.

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