What Soros Wanted, Obama Delivers,Esperanto?

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posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 12:26 PM
LEAKED NETWORK MEMO REVEALS: Obama Controls Your Television Set

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posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 10:19 PM
1. To those that have any interest about Esperanto, please learn it. 20 hours study will allow you to start using it. I will help you. Search the word Esperanto and my name to find my site. My email address is on all my web pages. Click the word "Enrique" at the beginning or end of any page.

2. You don't need to wait for other people to learn Esperanto. You can start to enjoy the use of Esperanto right now. I learned it 50 years ago (August 1959) and I have always used it. You cannot compare Esperanto with English. I wanted to and learned both languages. It took me 2 months to start using Esperanto. It took me about half a life to learn English.

3. Last week I was in Beijing, China. The previus week I visited Busan, South Korea. In both places I enjoyed the welcome by local Esperanto speakers. In Busan I was all the time in company of local Esperanto speakers. In Beijing most of the time I was speaking with Chinese people in Esperanto. I was invited to visit one of them in a Hutong in Beijing. I also visited the Esperanto section of China Radio International.

4. About Soros and his father:
Tivadar Schwartz changed his name to the Esperanto word "Soros". He helped thousands of Jews to hide or to flee from the Nazis in Hungary. Soros left Hungary to participate in an Esperanto convention in London. He didn't return home after the convention. He owns his escape to Esperanto. Today he doesn't care for Esperanto.

5. The metric system is used in USA: CocaCola comes in 2-litter bottles. Jewels are measured in carats. Medicines are measured in cubic centimeters. Calories, watts and volts are metric units. Even some cigarettes are 10 millimeters long.

6. Ahabstar said:

>How would decades of mandatory Esperanto in the US
>school system succeed where the Metric System has failed.

I don't like anything mandatory ... but 2 years of everybody learning Esperanto would be more than enough for almost everybody to be able to use Esperanto.

As shown before, the Metric System has not failed, and it is being used in almost the whole world. Even in the USA most scientific calculations use the Metric System.

>Look at Latino Immigration. They refuse to learn functioning English.

I don't like the word, but you can call me Latino if that makes you happy. My first language is Spanish. How many Spanish speakers in the USA do you know that don't want to learn English? Not counting very few, very old people, all the Spanish speakers in the USA would like to speak English.

English is a very difficult language. Most of them work too many hours and don't have too much free time to learn English, nor the money to pay for courses. Almost all the Spanish speakers get to use English after some time.

>Why would they embrace Esperanto?

Esperanto is much easier to learn than any other language and can be used in almost every country. Most Esperanto speakers learned Esperanto to speak with people of other countries, so they are very happy to speak with you when you visit their countries. Many of them also offer a place to stay, or accompany you to visit their towns. I do that with some of the people that visit San Francisco. I did it much more when I was living in New York City.

>As for ease of learning, so much of it is based off of
>Germanic and Slavic words and grammar that it would
>be easier for the nations of the EU to adopt as an official
>language than it would for the UK, US, and Canada to adopt.

The average English speaker can start using Esperanto after 20 hours study. A couple of my students reached fluency after speaking it during 2 days. Others need more time, but nothing compared what Spanish, Russian or Chinese may take. In the case of Chinese or Japanese, many people learn only the spoken language. In Esperanto there is no difference between written and spoken language: each letter has just one sound and each sound is represented by just one letter. You have to pronounce all letters.

Best wishes


posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 12:45 AM

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

HI Proto, I am going to think about your post before I respond.

Fair enough friend Stormdancer, my post didn’t entirely convey specifically what I wanted to share with you because in part it was a response to what you put in your original post and what Chiron but in the post regarding a need for a one world government.

I meant to respond more specifically to the Obama, Strong, Soros angle that the Esperanto issue you brought up is just a part of.

You are trying to demonstrate how Soros as an extremely wealthy and influential man who heavily backed the Obama candidacy for President appears to have bought influence to shape policy now that Obama is President.

This is all basically true but the danger lies in believing that Soros is his controller or sole owner.

Soros is extremely wealthy and a oligarch but he is not Rothschild or Rockefeller wealthy.

Oligarchs like Soros are basically bag men for the other Oligarchs. They usually make their fortunes by the other richer principal oligarchs giving them a portion of their hidden wealth to invest, administer, put to work and make a profit but also very importantly to place a large sum of cash into his hands to pay their share which is typically a controlling share in endeavors like buying candidates.

The Bush family is another great example of what I refer to as bagmen oligarchs. George’s great grandfather made the initial Bush family wealth and prestige by being the President of the Rockefeller Corporation and then in tandem with the already previously better established Walker side of the family branched out from there to keep building that wealth and investing along the way in the Halls of Political Power.

Soros does appear to be Obama’s handler and the point of contact between Obama and the other oligarchs. I don’t believe Soros has the wealth and power to own him or control him in his own right though. Utilizing the pooled wealth of other Oligarchs stashed in his Investment Firm as well as his direct access to them and the political favors they can curry and the doors that they can open, together allow them to own and control Obama through Soros.

Soros doesn’t really get to control the agenda, Soros gets to deliver the orders and see what funds have to go where and to whom to make things happen.

The oligarch plans to establish a one world government is very credible and very real. One of the things they try to use to their favor is the illusion that the oligarchs are competing with one another and that there are different oligarch factions vying for control. They aren’t they are all on the same page as all their wealth and power and spider webs of control and lies are all tied together.

The belief that the oligarchs are divided and competing and trying to defeat one another is something that they like to plant to give people false hope that the problem might correct itself and therefore they need to take no action themselves to put an end to it or stand against it or at the very least do their level best to expose it.

Soros is the bagman for the usual suspects. Make no mistake about it Obama is a litmus test of just how well the politically correct controls and way of thinking drilled into the masses 24 hours a day through the media are really working.

Over the 4 years of his Presidency the Oligarchs will test the waters again and again with things like the Birth Certificate Issue and the Nobel Prize and the Bail Outs, not closing GITMO, ramping up in Afghanistan, attacking Iran, Health Care, Swine Flu, Mandatory Volunteer Service, a National ID Card, etc., etc., to see if at any point the American people ever mount a credible attempt to rebel.

If we don’t by towards the end of his first term…they will move to implement their full plan for fighting World War III and installing a New One World Government in it’s aftermath.

Soros is not the guy driving that plan, orchestrating it or controlling it. He is though in my humble opinion a bagman and delivery boy to the far wealthier and more powerful men he works for and with.

As always all roads lead to one place. The Janus Fund? Sounds like a Roman God to me!

Hail Caesar!

This is the final act in Rome’s conquest and take over of the world.

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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 12:48 PM
Is Obama prepared to hand over US sovereignty?




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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 12:56 PM

Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord

At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.

posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:13 PM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

The oligarch plans to establish a one world government is very credible and very real. One of the things they try to use to their favor is the illusion that the oligarchs are competing with one another and that there are different oligarch factions vying for control. They aren’t they are all on the same page as all their wealth and power and spider webs of control and lies are all tied together.

The belief that the oligarchs are divided and competing and trying to defeat one another is something that they like to plant to give people false hope that the problem might correct itself and therefore they need to take no action themselves to put an end to it or stand against it or at the very least do their level best to expose it.

Thank you Proto for clarifying that, I am getting a clearer picture now,

Perhaps their WW3 is Global warming?

When I think of Maurice Strong and his speech.


He gave a speech on how one day he and his ilk would manipulate the market world wide to cause this shift in power, have you read it?

In an essay by Strong entitled Stockholm to Rio: A Journey Down a Generation, he says:

"Strengthening the role the United Nations can play...will require serious examination of the need to extend into the international arena the rule of law and the principle of taxation to finance agreed actions which provide the basis for governance at the national level. But this will not come about easily. Resistance to such changes is deeply entrenched. They will come about not through the embrace of full blown world government, but as a careful and pragmatic response to compelling imperatives and the inadequacies of alternatives."

"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. What is needed is recognition of the reality that in so many fields, and this is particularly true of environmental issues, it is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security."[8]

Maurice Strong has demonstrated an uncanny ability to manipulate people, institutions, governments, and events to achieve the outcome he desires. Through his published writings and public presentations he has declared his desire to empower the U.N. as the global authority to manage a new era of global governance. He has positioned his NGO triumvirite, the IUCN, WWF, and the WRI, to varnish U.N. activity with the perception of "civil society" respectability. And now he has been appointed Senior Advisor to the U.N. Secretary General and assigned the responsibility of reforming the United Nations bureaucracy. The fox has been given the assignment, and all the tools necessary, to repair the henhouse to his liking.

This isn't the speech I am still looking for it.

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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:30 PM
Obama, Maurice Strong, Al Gore key players cashing in on Chicago Climate Exchange


posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:36 PM
Maurice Strong

The ranch belonged to Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, a man who's career was started by the Bin Ladens and who strong connections to British intelligence.


in 1978, a mystic informed Hanne and Maurice Strong that "the Baca would become the center for a new planetary order which would evolve from the economic collapse and environmental catastrophes that would sweep the globe in the years to come."

Hanne and Maurice Strong created the Manitou Foundation in 1988, a New Age institute on or near the Baca Ranch. On the website it reads:

"In the mid 1990’s, Manitou and specialists of The Conservation Fund, with generous support of Laurance Rockefeller [the late UFO/Crop Circle investigations funder] and the Jackson Hole Preserve, devoted several years to extensive studies of Manitou’s mountain properties, culminating in the creation of the Manitou Habitat Conservation Plan (MHCP)."

At the ranch there are representatives of many of the world's religions, spiritual movements, and New Age sects, including the Catholic and Protestant churches, Buddhist monks, and representatives of different variations on Hinduism.

A circular temple has been built on the ranch where the missionaries of different religions can contemplate with each other.

If you look at the floor plan you'll see the building is a complex flower (the representatives sit in circles within this flower) within a Celtic Cross/Hindu Kiakra.

The latter two represent a divine sexual union.

The building seems to be a Rosy Cross, which can be interpreted as having the same meaning. In that last case, the color of the rose would correspond with the nearby mountain range:

Sangre de Cristo, meaning 'Blood of Christ', the sacred name the Spanish settlers decided to reserve for it. Nicholas de Vere, former head of the British Dragon Court, wrote:

"The Rose represents... the magical menstrual flow of Solomon's beloved." George Hunt, who visited the place, asked to a Catholic priest there, father Victor, what the purpose of the temple is:

"We contemplate on the sexual union of the church with God... that's our mission, because we're fulfilling a role that the pope wants us to fulfill. I don't know, we're just contemplating on the sexual union of the church with God." The San Luis Valley is an amazing place.

Twelve different Indian tribes used the Valley as a sacred hunting and vision-quest area. Some of these tribes have legends about the 'Sipapu', or 'place of reemergence', near the lakes area.

They believe that their ancestors were led underground to safety at this location by the 'Ant People', just before a cleansing period of the earth started. According to the Navajo tradition, they were warned of the upcoming cataclysms by 'sky katchinas'


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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:39 PM
"What if a small group of these word leaders were to conclude that the principle risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it?" -
-- Maurice Strong

posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:41 PM
An interview, titled The Wizard Of the Baca Grande, which Maurice Strong conducted with West magazine of Alberta, Canada, in May 1990, he provides details which elucidate the reasons behind the Illuminati’s support of the environmental movement.

Strong concluded with a disturbing apocalyptic scenario he would to include in a novel he says he would like to write:

Each year the World Economic Forum convenes in Davos, Switzerland. Over a thousand CEOs, prime ministers, finance ministers, and leading academics gather in February to attend meetings and set the economic agendas for the year ahead.

What if a small group of these word leaders were to conclude that the principle risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it? Will the rich countries agree to reduce their impact on the environment? Will they agree to save the earth?

The group’s conclusion is “no.” The rich countries won’t do it. They won’t change. So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?

This group of world leaders form a secret society to bring about a world collapse. It’s February. They’re all at Davos. These aren’t terrorists ­ they’re world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world’s commodity and stock markets. They’ve engineered, using their access to stock exchanges, and computers, and gold supplies, a panic.

Then they prevent the markets from closing. They jam the gears. They have mercenaries who hold the rest of the world leaders at Davros as hostage. The markets can’t close. The rich countries...?” and Strong makes a slight motion with his fingers as if he were flicking a cigarette butt out of the _[10]


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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 02:13 PM
He answered and said to them: "He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age.

posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 10:22 PM

I wanted some names

The so-called "Shadow Democratic Party," or "Shadow Party," is a nationwide network of more than five-dozen unions, non-profit activist groups, and think tanks whose agendas are ideologically to the left, which are engaged in campaigning for the Democrats. Its activities include fundraising, get-out-the-vote drives, political advertising, opposition research, and media manipulation. The Shadow Party was conceived and organized principally by George Soros,Hillary Clinton and Harold McEwan Ickes -- all identified with the Democratic Party left.

A political consultancy called the Thunder Road Group (TRG), located on the 7th Floor of the historic Motion Picture Association of America headquarters at 888 Sixteenth Street NW in Washington, DC, serves as the unofficial headquarters of the Shadow Party. Three other Shadow Party groups also lease space in the same building, including America Coming Together (ACT),America Votes, and the Partnership for America's Families. The clustering of these groups in a building owned by the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) is significant. The MPAA has long enjoyed a close relationship with the Democratic Party; many high-ranking Democrats have transitioned comfortably from government jobs into glamorous posts in the MPAA's upper management.


As of August 2004, the husband-wife team of George Soros and Susan Soros had contributed $13,120,000 to Shadow Party groups and operations, second only to Soros' longtime friend and collaborator, insurance mogul Peter B. Lewis($14,175,000). The third leading donor was Jane Fonda ($13,085,750), followed by Hollywood producer Stephen Bing in fourth place ($9,869,014). Other major funders of the Shadow Party include the Tides Foundation and the Open Society Institute.

Wall Street billionaire George Soros is the Shadow Party's principal founder and mastermind.

During the 1990s, Soros had grown close to Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. Their ascension to power gave him easy entreé to Washington elites of a sort he had long coveted but never enjoyed. Soros became the Clintons' unofficial envoy to Russia and to other former Communist states. The assignment proved lucrative for him. Soros made a fortune in the so-called "Russiagate" phenomenon -- the orgy of backroom "privatization" deals and Russian junk bond issues which Clinton officials such as Strobe Talbot, Al Gore and Lawrence Summers helped foster in the former USSR.

The Shadow Party Soros has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries, prior to instigating a coup.Soros dedicated himself to restoring Hillary to the White House.

SO why did he switch to Obama?

posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 10:29 PM
Perceptions are being shaped through a combination of propaganda, disinformation, denial and deceit by the radical left, which has seized control of the Democrat Party.

There are ten easy steps toward a progressive-socialist-Marxist civil society: change the popular consensus; destroy Christianity, the traditional family, and existing social mores; transform the culture; install a radical Left mind-control; attain political power; impose strict control of the military and law enforcement; restrict freedom; socialize the economy; erase American sovereignty; and embrace a world without borders.

The Soros Plan

After licking his wounds and completing a damage assessment of what went wrong in 2004, when his candidate John Kerry lost the presidency, Soros turned to winning the 2008 presidential election through his clandestine Shadow Party tucked away inside the Democrat Party. A secret meeting was held in Scottsdale, Arizona, in the spring of 2005. Seventy well-heeled potential donors listened intently while George Soros laid out a five-year plan to create a network of think tanks, media outlets, and training centers to promote his own special blend of progressive-socialist-marxist politics. Those at the secret meeting, calling themselves the “Phoenix Group,” focused initially on three main goals: creating progressive-socialist-Marxist think tanks, training centers for the young progressives, and media centers.

posted on Oct, 20 2009 @ 03:34 AM
Imo, this is the "missing" link... another piece of the puzzle. Kinda surprised it has not got more attention. I'm def going to look into this soro's language conection, and whether the Bush's have any conection to this movement.

posted on Oct, 20 2009 @ 05:15 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

Wow, Storm, this whole thread is a lot to take in ... Incredible sourcing and opinion/observations...

Like my wife says... "don't stop"


posted on Oct, 21 2009 @ 03:07 AM

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
reply to post by Stormdancer777

Wow, Storm, this whole thread is a lot to take in ... Incredible sourcing and opinion/observations...

Like my wife says... "don't stop"


and no I'm not a Limbaugh fan
but it is so important to look behind the curtain and when you start to unravel the threads and connections it becomes impossible to ignore - I was at the beginning of the election process hopeful - like so many others - that an Obama candidacy meant a return to honesty and integrity in government....doh!! don't all laugh at once
....but after some research - and it doesn't take much - its clear to me that the Globalists are on track - Centralization of power requires the submission of national sovereignty which rips the heart out of our constitution, still one of the most amazing documents on the planet...and I can only look at efforts to undermine it as sinister....

posted on Oct, 23 2009 @ 10:58 PM
I wonder if anyone remembers over a year ago when the US stock market began to tank. I was watching the markets and I remember MSNBC saying that the largest order on record to short the US stock market came in from Europe. To me it had George Soros written all over it but the order was confidential. It was perfectly timed to put fear into the market at about the time Obama was suddenly becoming popular and all sorts of campaign funds were coming to him from all around the globe.

I thought then and I still do that the globalists were getting their man into office that could begin to wreck the dollar, the US economy and power.

The events a year ago scared me so badly I took all my money out of the stock market. I thought if someone wanted to short the American market that badly, I'd better stand out of the way. Bad times were coming!

No one knows what Obama's real goals are but we can look to the strange views of George Soros for the answer!

Kudos Stormdancer!

posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 12:32 PM
This is from today:
Soros calls Wall St profits ‘gifts’ from state

I see this as Soros supporting Obama on his recent limits on bank executive pay.

The big profits made by some of Wall Street’s leading banks are “hidden gifts” from the state, and taxpayer resentment of such companies is “justified”, George Soros, the fund manager, said in an interview with the Financial Times. “Those earnings are not the achievement of risk-takers,” Mr Soros said. “These are gifts, hidden gifts, from the government, so I don’t think that those monies should be used to pay bonuses. There’s a resentment which I think is justified.”

The wise and thoughtful Mr. Soros had many things to say about the US and Brittain like:

Mr Soros, who is probably best known for his bet against the British pound, said the dollar was weak, but that its decline would be limited by its tie to the Chinese renminbi: “As long as the renminbi is tied to the dollar, I don’t see how the decline in the dollar can go too far.


“There is a general lack of confidence in currencies and a move away from currencies into real assets,” he said. “There is a push in gold, there’s a strength in oil and that is a flight from currencies.” Mr Soros said that he thought the rally in the US stock market would continue for the rest of the year. But he warned that “the hope of a rapid recovery in the US is misplaced”.

posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 02:55 PM
Friday On Glenn Beck, sorry, but he did have this guy on that brought up Maurice Strong, One world government guru

Glenn Beck Clips 10-23-09 Seg6- Is The Climate Change Treaty The Start of World Government?


posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Imo, this is the "missing" link... another piece of the puzzle. Kinda surprised it has not got more attention. I'm def going to look into this soro's language conection, and whether the Bush's have any conection to this movement.

Good idea rock, did you find anything?

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