Remote viewers: have you seen past 2012?, page 1
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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 10:33 AM by Jalis
reply to post by ugie1028



Just do it, you risk only to be flamed metaphorically !
I mean, it's not like we were the inquisition and would flame you for real.

Anyway, I'm not here to force you, so if you don't want to, just don't. In that case, could you send me your information in U2U ? (I'll keep it secret or only tell it to people I trust if you ask me to).


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 10:35 AM by doped00
reply to post by ugie1028



Post your experience!

I'm sure it will be interesting.


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 10:42 AM by Spirit Warrior 11:11
Originally posted by SaturnFX
keep in mind that there was absolute mass panic about jan 1, 2000 (not just Y2k bug)...ammo and food was hoarded, people were literally preparing for the end of the world as some sort of epic cosmic fail point.

and what happened...well, not alot beyond alot of partys playing old Prince tunes...and a couple clocks going wonky on inconsequential overlooked systems.

So, now we have another 2000 coming around..this time, its the mayan calender verses the gregorian. Oh well.

Problem with remote viewing this particular date is "front loading"...2012 would have expectations in people and they would end up seeing what they expect verses what is, which makes any remote viewing of a specific date of this popularity completely corrupted by the ideas of the person.

like remote viewing the moon...if you believe the moon is a barren rock, you will focus in and get crators, dust, etc...if you believe that its a hollow space ship full of greys, you will see that...but if you are told to describe the moon around, say, jupiter, and you have no clue what its like, then you might be actually giving unbias reporting verses assumptions


This is actually a common misconception and is wrong. You are correct assuming that to view the date would be front loading, however, if you attempted to do that you would not be following RV protocols anyway. YOU CANNOT get ANY useful data from an RV session if you have done the tasking for yourself. This is why it takes more than one person to do RV sessions. The tasker picks the task and assigns a random number to it. The random number (target) is given to the person watching and helping the viewer. The viewer is given ONLY the random number and told to view its representation. This is TRUE RV. The viewer has no idea what the target is, he only is exposed to a random number representing the target. Even the person administering to the viewer is blind. You will never see a word or description of a target in a true RV session.

In general I find there is so much disinfo out there on this subject. I don't know where people get their information. Probably from some forum where a poster claims he knows something and pulls it out of his arse. Don't be offended, I'm not speaking about you. You were correct in relaying the front loading problem. This is the BIGGEST obstacle to RV sessions along with unrecognized Analytical Overlay (AOL).


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 10:52 AM by Spirit Warrior 11:11
Originally posted by homoerectus
no offence .. but why would you even be asking on this site when the greatest seer in history nostradamus says his prophecies run up to the end of the next millenium.??? 2012 is a joke.. the earths crust will move one day but it;ll be totally unexpected and nobody will guess it.. just dont be committing suicide o selling all your earthly belongings just yet.!! if you live to the end of the next milennium then maybe you should ...


You are being a little too opinionated here and you are incorrect in your assumptions as well.

Nostradamus and his drug induced visions was very good yes. However due to his cryptic messages many have been misinterpreted. He was also not the greatest. If you go back a bit further and look at the Oracle at Delphi.

Last, your assumption about his visions are wrong as well. You need to have an understanding of how the illusion of time works. In the first place you are only viewing glimpses of PROBABLE outcomes. The second problem is that probability drastically changes the further out in time you are. You will be much more accurate viewing an event for tomorrow rather than 300 years in the future.

If you like Nostrad. you may be interested in a book recently published about him. It sounds unbelievable but he 'contacted' the autor of this book to correct some misinterpretations of his quatrains. This book became quite popular after 911 because his revised information in todays language described the 911 event in detail. The book author was obviously laughed at when attempting to warn authorities before the event. However, after the event she was on many talk shows, news channels, and lectures because the new info was DEAD accurate. The way the info came through truly is nearly an unbelievable fantasy, but the information that came was dead on. So...its hard to be opinionated about that under those circumstances.

Book: Conversations with NostraD by Dolores Cannon.


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 10:53 AM by Nichiren
reply to post by HighEye



You say "real remote viewing"? It is a bogus field with a lot of charlatans trying to sell you books and seminars.

I can take it seriously when a RV practitioner solves one (1) child abduction case.



reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:02 AM by xEphon
Originally posted by Nichiren
reply to
post by HighEye



You say "real remote viewing"? It is a bogus field with a lot of charlatans trying to sell you books and seminars.

I can take it seriously when a RV practitioner solves one (1) child abduction case.




You do know that remote viewing was funded by the ARMY / CIA for decades?
Stargate Project


[edit on 14-10-2009 by xEphon]


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:06 AM by nepafogo
reply to post by SaturnFX



Firt of all you cannot compare the Y2K conspiracy to the 2012 conspiracy. The Y2K conspiracy was based on our own technology and the whole resetting the date back to 1900 in our computer systems. How that was supposed to "end the world" I have no idea and I personally thought it was such bull. I work in the IT industry and was on call in NZ for the rollover and as I suspected absolutely nothing happened other than alot of technology companies made a ton of cash.

2012 is a date based on not only Mayan prophecies, but also the I-Ching prdictions, Hopie Indian prophecies, Sumerian prophesies, Nostradamus just to name a few. Also should mention the galactic allignment and pole shift theories. So to compare this to Y2K is absolutely absurd.

You need to look further than just the Mayan prediction. Just look at the state of the world right now and tell me it doesnt look bleek. The entire middle east is ready to implode into a major war and most likely will be devastating. Financial meltdown worldwide. Extreme weather (major earthquakes, tsunam's, typhoons, hurricanes etc etc). Swine flu and vaccination propoganda. Civil unrest in the USA ( i suspect a civil war is not that far off).

Maybe if you only watched the discovery or history channels documentaries on 2012 I could understand the skeptisism, but once you start connecting the dots it is alot bigger than just the Mayan calendar. I am still not fully convinced on the Mayan Calendar for the reasons you suggest, but to compare this to Y2K is ridiculous.


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 11:13 AM by ugie1028
reply to post by Jalis



Ill still be flamed, if i do or don't, i shouldn't of mentioned it. its a reply i some-what regret now, but oh well here it goes, ill try at least.

I had a dream, (this is where i do my viewing) i am usually able to remote view if i meditate into sleep, then i have more control of my lucid dreaming.

Check my old thread out, its named something like (sharing my story to all who will listen) but it was poorly written and was based on my first prediction experience.

After that dream, about a year or two down the road, i had this temple dream. i was sleeping 3 levels deep. (that means i went to sleep here, then went into deeper levels of sleep in the dream through a coma, and the other, was napping while in the coma dream of the dream)

hard to explain, but anyways, while i was in this deep trance, i witnessed a white orb following me through a section of my dream, and it allowed me to see 10 years into the future, and i saw a land without vegetation, i saw a land on fire, i saw complete darkness.

what this meant was that there were possible chances of this occurring. i cant bring anything specific besides the Erie feeling it left me.

take what you make of it, from what i saw, was the earth existing after 2012, but void of life.

but that was my experience, pretty sure others have seen differently, and i dont want to scare people either, but im sharing this because people have asked, so here it is.

flame away guys, flame away!

[edit on 10/14/2009 by ugie1028]
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