posted on Oct, 14 2009 @ 05:56 AM
I'm putting this in 'people' because it seems the only place fit for it.
This post contains a few sentences with an obvious sexual tone. These are however quotations and I felt it was important to use them so people would
get a grasp of the event that I'm describing, since there really isn't any other way to make that clear. I hope the mods tolerate it and won't
delete the entire post because of it
I'm not sure how schoolsystems are in other countries when it comes to religious classes, but over here the kids get two hours a week of these. There
is a Christianity class for Christians and catholics, a protestant class, an Islam class and for those who don't follow a specific religion there is
a 'morals class'
My daughter always took the morals class because I am not religious and I thought that this class would give her more values... basically it deals
with the problems of the world and our society, which are then debated to stimulate the child to develop an opinion.
While the children who take religious classes celebrate their communion at the age of 12, the children in the morals class celebrate something called
'liberal youth"(which has nothing to do with the political stance). In that week they can go to camp... just for fun.
So 4 years ago, my niece was 12 and for the liberal youth celebration she wanted to go to camp.
A few months earlier I had a parent teacher meeting at the school. At the same time there was sort of an open house for the morals class, so I decided
to stop by there after my meeting with the teacher.
There was a slide show about the camp, lots of informative folders and the people who organized the whole thing where also present.
I started to chat with a guy, he was one of the camp leaders who went with the kids every year. It turned out that he was also involved in political
activities in my city. We sat down, I was offered a cup of coffee and some biscuits and we started talking.
Then at one point we started to discuss our opinions about religion. Next the conversation turned very awkward.
This guys started telling me that he was a humanist, a naturist and a nudist. Ok, 'that's fine' I said, you do whatever you want in your free time.
(I'm not one to judge people on this). He talked about how he was chairman of the humanist organization... Next he continues about nudism, what it is
and how he learned that sexuality is only in the mind.
I told him that I was not comfortable with the way this conversation was going, but he continued:
(these are his exact words) "you my lady, how pretty you are standing here in front of me, but even if you where naked you couldn't give me an
erection if you wanted to. I on the other hand, could make you wet in seconds, because you haven't learned to control the sexuality in your mind".
He went on and on like that.
There where other people in that classroom, I'm sure some of them overheard that conversation, yet no one reacted on it as if that was a normal
conversation!. I took my coat and left.
I'm not a prude or anything, this is the kind of talk you expect from drunk men in a bar. As a woman you know when to prepare yourself for such trash
talk, but it is not something you expect to hear in your kids schools! So no, I wasn't prepared for this and he shocked me.
When I came home and told my husband about it, he jumped up and said "I'm going to break his face!". He almost went to the school, but I decide to
call my aunt, who I knew had gone to that meeting earlier that evening.
So my aunt listened to me and then she said that she had talked to that same guy, and from some of the things he had said, she decided to not let her
daughter go to camp. He had said things to her like "the kids love me, they love to sit on my lap all day" or "they are safe with me, I sleep in
the same bedroom as them". My aunt didn't trust this guy for a bit.
The next week me and my aunt went to the school counsel and told our story. My aunt told them that she wouldn't let her kid go on camp if that guy
went with them and that she would warn other parents. They talked it over with the guy. There was even arguing about how I showed 'over dressed' as
if he wanted to imply that it was my own fault? (He didn't say it but that's what I made of it). Yes, I was wearing a black womens suit with a skirt
and high heels, because I went there directly from work and that's how we dressed at my work place, it was formal, not sexy. Still that didn't gave
him the right to that trash talk.
The school decided that he couldn't go on camp with the kids that year. They thanked us for keeping it out of the local papers because this thing
could have damaged the schools image.
One week before camp the school council changed their minds. So my niece stayed home.
That was 4 years ago.
Now this schoolyear my daughter turns 12 and it's her turn to go to camp. She really wants to go but I already said no. The school is trying to push
me into another meeting... I already did my homework and I know for a fact that it are still the same campleaders who are going with the kids,
including the nudist guy.
So, I don't want to make my kid unhappy, but I also don't want her near that guy. I could try again to convince the school that the guy can't go
when my daughter goes, I can go public and destroy both the schools' and this mans reputation (I still have all the letters that where written back
and forward 4 years ago so I can prove every worth of it...) but I'm not sure it's worth it or if it's even the right thing to do.
Am I overreacting here? Would you let your kid go to that camp?