You know I really do hope that at least one of these cases goes through and everything the birthers ask for is granted. I want to see what kind of anatomy-defying pretzels they twist themselves into to hold onto their beliefs when they are proven wrong. Again.
But I am a sucker for sideshows.

And please don't start with the "why won't he show the certificate" stuff. It's been released, and you all reject it. It doesn't matter what happens. Nothing will change your minds.

So, we all here at ATS now believe there was nothing to the whole Obama Birth Certificate claim? Wow!

White House gag orders everyone from Glenn Beck to Colbert to CNN to stop talking about his birth certificate, and now this lady gets fined. Oh, that "crazy" lady who searches for the truth! How dare she!

The birth certificate issue was the hottest thing here on ATS, and now it's so passe. The issue didn't end because something was settled one way or the other, it disappeared because it was ordered to disppear.

How can anyone be empathetic if you don't walk a few feet in their shoes? How can anyone label someone crazy if you yourself are not sane enough to open your ears?

So, what? She believes in something. Trying to make a difference. When did any of you have this passion in anything other than who will be voted off the island? I applaud her and anyone who asks questions.

If Columbus turned around when the waters were too rough, well, whatever.

Originally posted by OneNationUnder

So, what? She believes in something. Trying to make a difference. When did any of you have this passion in anything other than who will be voted off the island? I applaud her and anyone who asks questions.

How do we know she isn't a Russian sleeper agent that was activated to attempt to derail putting America on the right track? An attempt to get rid of a legitimately elected president in order to continue the slow decline into a second world country under a Republican president.

Even if she isn't a sleeper agent who knows what hatred of America was taught to her growing up and now is deep seated into her sub conscious. She still could be doing everything possible to send us back to the Republican dark ages.

Originally posted by OneNationUnder

White House gag orders everyone from Glenn Beck to Colbert to CNN to stop talking about his birth certificate,

-just laughs-

You know...I was thinking, do we even know if Obama is a male? I mean, there was stories out of how he tried bisexuality in his college days, what if he was actually a female

the long birth certificate would clear this up of course, alternatively, he could simply release pictures of his weener.
Sure, we are told he has children, but why hasnt he released DNA samples of himself and his children to prove this?

Also...we know he smoked the plant, but there is also stories of how he did harder stuff, like coke.. how do we know he isnt a major colombian kenyan drug lord that has been planted here.

Obama needs to release his DNA, his childrens DNA, pics of his wang, and a entire GPS tracking history of all his movements since the age of 1 month...is this too much to ask? I think not...else, he probably is all these things (a transsexual colombian druglord) until proven otherwise...I hope Orly is taking notes for her next session in the courts.

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Originally posted by SaturnFX
You know...I was thinking, do we even know if Obama is a male? I mean, there was stories out of how he tried bisexuality in his college days, what if he was actually a female

the long birth certificate would clear this up of course, alternatively, he could simply release pictures of his weener.
Sure, we are told he has children, but why hasnt he released DNA samples of himself and his children to prove this?

Also...we know he smoked the plant, but there is also stories of how he did harder stuff, like coke.. how do we know he isnt a major colombian kenyan drug lord that has been planted here.

Obama needs to release his DNA, his childrens DNA, pics of his wang, and a entire GPS tracking history of all his movements since the age of 1 month...is this too much to ask? I think not...else, he probably is all these things (a transsexual colombian druglord) until proven otherwise...I hope Orly is taking notes for her next session in the courts.

Proving without a doubt that he is a natural born citizen is a requirement of the constitution and therefore must be satisfied when challenged. Once satisfied then all this nonsense can go away and they can look for some other cause to champion. You are sticking with the notion he should not have to produce the long form BC because it is a private document but he really should as it is the only real proof. The latest case in California has a chance to have the POTUS produce this document where it will be examined and this will be put to rest once and for all, but it must be done to satisfy the Constitution.

Originally posted by habfan1968

Proving without a doubt that he is a natural born citizen is a requirement of the constitution and therefore must be satisfied when challenged.

Yes and he has proved it without a doubt to every authority of government. 'Proving without a doubt he is a natural born citizen" to everyone who doubts it...well that is not practical or possible. There is still a flat earth society.

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Obama needs to release his DNA, his childrens DNA, pics of his wang, and a entire GPS tracking history of all his movements since the age of 1 month...is this too much to ask? I think not...else, he probably is all these things (a transsexual colombian druglord) until proven otherwise...I hope Orly is taking notes for her next session in the courts.

No... Obama should release anything that any other employer expects of their employees. Ask anyone getting a new job these days - you may have to produce any/all of the following: birth certificate, SS card, college transcripts, drug test results, passports, previous names/addresses, credit history, etc.

Obama works for me and the other 299 million Americans. Just as your employer very well has the above info on you, we should have the same info on him.

And as any employer would say to their employee, if you don't want to produce that basic information - get the heck out and find another job.

Oh yay! another BC thread!

Its like a car accident, its horrific but I just can't look away.

Here is the part I cannot grasp about this whole situation.

For those who want to see this thing through, as in transparency, the release or lifted sealing of the long form. I understand this point of view.

1. People just hate the guy
2. People want the transparency that was promised. Obama a man of his word?

3. People who are suspicious, and with good reason, those who choose to question everything their government says, does or represents especially in a country on the verge of implosion. Why is everything sealed? After 8 years of Bush, if people did not question government/president then, then they should certainly be at the very least questioning everything now.

4. People who were listening and watching when any information became available about the man who would become president. His associations, his friends, his church, his family, his political leanings, his political records, his education, everything. There was enough in all of this to cause further investigation into certain areas. Much of it sealed or stopped in its tracks and left alone by the MSM.... Why, enquiring minds want to know.


As for the point of view on the other side. Why do some defend him to the "death" so to speak?

1. Well I really can't think of anything. Ok, lets say... he is president and should be respected so stop the madness.

2. Ok heres another...... People just really really like him.



The long form issue should have been handled the same as Mccains. Released to avoid further issues. Granted he legally may have had some trouble in the "courts" proving his eligibility but at least he put his BC out there as though he had nothing to hide.