posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 09:09 PM
reply to post by xEphon
The logical leap of faith being made is that a sense of self is equivalent to consciousness.
If it's strictly material then you are admitting the property is inherent in the matter which composes the individual. Nothing that is reduced can
lack the potential for manifesting a property in its individual components. To explain consciousness by a magical point of complexity is really an
attempt to explain it away; it's a copout. Even then, it's not complexity, it's organization and what manner of awareness manifests is a result of
If it isn't strictly that, then where do we learn to easily conceive of matter without consciousness present but not consciousness without matter
present? And, what is so difficult about conceiving of consciousness without self? The brain serves to manifest self by its organization, not the
The solution is simple to me, there is always consciousness but there is self only so long as there is organization and motion (time)-- perhaps not
time as we know it, even though this would be a non-comparative sense of self and if change exists in some form then time exists in some form.
Organization is constraint in potential and motion. Self is a diminished state of consciousness from no-self.
What needs to be answered is if the constraint exists beyond the death of what we would consider the physical body. Some clues presented here and
elsewhere suggest it does. I won't bore anyone with minor personal experiences as it isn't really an argument anyway.
In any case, answering the hard problem
still looks elusive.